Mays.clinton Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 21 hours ago, titanruss said: he has to prove he can succeed in the league before anyone should rank him as legitimate on any list. At this point its silly to say he should be above RT. If we had maintained a moticum of consistency in scheme and did what he did best instead of trying to turn him into kordell stewert.. this argument may have held water. Mariota looked like a future star under wiz's scheme and mularkeys "wiz adjusted scheme" The next year we got a running game and he learned to throw deep better... after that, the running game faltered, people figured out the O and scouted the QB, and it was all downhill much because the scheme sucked/ didnt fit. mariotas confidence got shot. then he was ruined as a player. I'm sure he'll welcome a fresh start. Yea, somewhere else,not in Tennessee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mays.clinton Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, big2033 said: If you haven't figured it out yet ... people's perspective on how to maximize him is all over the place ... just like he is as a player. Not a good sign. It just shows me he's a master of none. Which is his M.O. since he's been in the NFL. So when people see him casually, and when they don't see him pass as effectively as needed ... they think, "run him more!" But when coaches do that and he's not effective fans say, "make him pass you're running him too much he's not Lamar Jackson." But when they make him pass ... people see his struggles and say ... "they should run him more!" Wash, rinse, repeat. He's not a good enough runner and his not a good enough passer to dominate a system. He's Alex Smith with bad pocket presence. Even Alex Smith game was better than Mariota,let's not kid ourselves big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinx81 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 There is no “scheme” in existence that calls for errant screen passes 5 yards off the mark and taking unnecessary sacks at the first sign of trouble. He can’t throw the ball. Scheme has nothing to do with it. big2033, OILERMAN, rns90, and 1 other 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 18 hours ago, BudAdams said: The comp of Alex Smith is an insult to Smith..... LOL cmon I made a small comparison in terms of style (QB who can run in a straight line with no arm strength and a conservative style). Don't cremate me. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Mays.clinton said: Damm,just move on, if we are the reason why he failed miserable then what makes you think it's going to change if we resign him, tannihil played alot better under the same o-line and led us into the playoffs and to the afc conference finals but fans still say tannihil isn't the answer, smh, but Mariota definitely isn't ,and I'll leave it at that He "MIGHT" make a good XFL QB.... He's done here..Let him go and wish him well... PLEASE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, big2033 said: LOL cmon I made a small comparison in terms of style (QB who can run in a straight line with no arm strength and a conservative style). Don't cremate me. Locker is a better comparison, seriously. Although mm has a much weaker arm big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Can someone please post that video of the play where Locker ran around like a chicken with his head cut off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Remember how mad the MM fan boys got when I showed the 20 game comparison with Locker? OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bink Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Career back-up as Mariota's floor is not a bad thing--personally, I both don't think he'll be more but do think he'll thrive in that role. Consider: Injury concerns mitigated by the backup role Calm personality that won't rock the boat Good in the community/professionalism department Capable of being a "game manager" type but also can make enough plays to get by Backup fits better with his less vocal leadership style It may take him another stop to get there. For example, I imagine if a team like the Bears brings him in, he will want to compete and push Trubisky for the starting role--and in this situation it's reasonable that he will end up in the line of fire again as a meaningful starter. It's the next stop, where he ends up somewhere like Kansas City as a true backup, where this could really materialize. And if it does, good for him. Edited February 21, 2020 by Bink NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bink said: Career back-up as Mariota's floor is not a bad thing--personally, I both don't think he'll be more but do think he'll thrive in that role. Consider: Injury concerns mitigated by the backup role Calm personality that won't rock the boat Good in the community/professionalism department Capable of being a "game manager" type but also can make enough plays to get by Backup fits better with his less vocal leadership style It may take him another stop to get there. For example, I imagine if a team like the Bears brings him in, he will want to compete and push Trubisky for the starting role--and in this situation it's reasonable that he will end up in the line of fire again as a meaningful starter. It's the next stop, where he ends up somewhere like Kansas City as a true backup, where this could really materialize. And if it does, good for him. My one problem with this is being a quiet leader is good for a back up. I think that is a job suited to someone with my personality. I don't take charge unless I feel it is needed or I am the best for the job. Then I start driving everyone. Knowing when to an when not to take over is the key to someone in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Locker is a better comparison, seriously. Although mm has a much weaker arm You're not wrong. The Alex Smith comparison was a pre-draft scouting report and it's stuck in my head. I believe it was right in terms of style of play. But Mariota is obviously worse. When I make the comparison, I'm in no way saying they're on the same level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, big2033 said: You're not wrong. The Alex Smith comparison was a pre-draft scouting report and it's stuck in my head. I believe it was right in terms of style of play. But Mariota is obviously worse. When I make the comparison, I'm in no way saying they're on the same level. Insert any QB who is dual threat and cannot consistently throw.... big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, BudAdams said: Insert any QB who is dual threat and cannot consistently throw.... Those guys should be called single threat QB's. smokeater 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, big2033 said: LOL cmon I made a small comparison in terms of style (QB who can run in a straight line with no arm strength and a conservative style). Don't cremate me. You may not be totally wrong. This is a cool tool which finds QB's closest comparison with other QBs seasons per analytics. Mariotas 2015 and 2016 are both closest to Alex Smith in 2014! His 2017 was closest to Bridgewater and 2018 to 2016 Bradford. Notice a trend? Weak armed QB's with good mobility who don't take risks. Tannehills 2019 was closest to 2019 Brees while his 2018 was closest to 2006 David Carr! His jump in play was remarkable. I said it before, I think Tanny was arguably the worst starting QB in the NFL in 2018 and then top 5 the very next year https://public.tableau.com/profile/daniel.morse#!/vizhome/QBComparisonTool/QBComparisonFinder Edited February 21, 2020 by IrishTitansFan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 The best place for Mariota is behind an Ironman QB who never misses a game. smokeater, OILERMAN, big2033, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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