Bink Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) We are in a bit of a unique position with the volume of free agents we're dealing with this upcoming season and the limited amount of draft capital we have. I am in the camp that believes we'll bring back Tannehill and Henry, and it's possible we bring back Conklin too. Assuming we don't on the latter, we're in the need for a CB, OT, LB with additional need for RB depth as either Henry insurance/change of pace, interior oline depth, and more weapons across the board. We've shown we can hit well when it comes to the second round with AJ Brown and Landry. I think the Bears, with 43 and 50, and the Falcons, with 47 and 55, should be on our radar as potential trade down partners. Both of these are a win for us in terms of draft value charts. Thoughts? Running through a quick scenario via First-pick, accepting a deal with Atlanta means we pick first at 2.15. In terms of pass rush, Julian Okwara is still on the board. He's the pick. At 2.23, AJ Terrell is still there, as is Trey Adams. I know Terrell profiles here or a bit higher, but Cameron Dantzler is there too, so there's reason to believe a talented CB will be available. I go Terrell. Adams is available at 2.29, so the 6'8 run bruiser is the pick. 2.15 Julian Okwara, DE/OLB Notre Dame 2.23 AJ Terrell, CB Clemson 2.29 Trey Adams, OT Washington 3. 29 Zach Moss, RB Utah 5.28 Thaddeus Moss, TE LSU 6.29 Steven Gonzalez, OG Penn State It feels like that extra pick really makes a difference, don't you think? Edited February 17, 2020 by Bink Thrill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10 A See Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 I would do it depending on who is on the board. A late 1st is essentially a 2nd round pick to me anyway... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) We're way the hell out of the range where we might be able to steal a guy like Simmons after they'd fallen. JRob has proven that he likes to make deals so if he feels like there are multiple guys he'd like to target with extra picks then he won't hesitate to pull the trigger. It all hinges on who might be a willing partner. Also, other teams drafting before us, e.g. Ravens, may be inclined to trade down too, which would be a little more appealing to teams like the Bears/Falcons than trading with us. Edited February 17, 2020 by NashvilleNinja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bink Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said: We're way the hell out of the range where we might be able to steal a guy like Simmons after they'd fallen. JRob has proven that he likes to make deals so if he feels like there are multiple guys he'd like to target with extra picks then he won't hesitate to pull the trigger. It all hinges on who might be a willing partner. Also, other teams drafting before us, e.g. Ravens, may be inclined to trade down too, which would be a little more appealing to teams like the Bears/Falcons than trading with us. For sure. I am just saying we should be open to it, and looking at some of the scenarios I like what I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) In the Titans circumstance, trading down makes a lot of sense. But that assumes that OT is worked out first. Don't think the team has that luxury if OT is still a need. That's why I posted earlier that signing Kelly as a starter makes sense. It opens up the trade down option. Is Kelly good enough? We'll see what JRob thinks. Trading down probably nets a top of the 4th pick in return. Edited February 17, 2020 by ctm Justafan, and TNTitans 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Bink said: For sure. I am just saying we should be open to it, and looking at some of the scenarios I like what I see. I hope we do get to trade around. It just makes the draft more fun to watch because you never know when we might pop up on the ticker. The Evans/Landry draft was a fun first couple rounds. And even then JRob wasn't done. Didn't he trade up to get Cruikshank? If nothing else JRob is an exciting ass GM. How many fans of other teams can say that? Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Finding a trade partner ia the problem. However on the other side of things we have no idea till we resign people and see our free agents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bink Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, ctm said: In the Titans circumstance, trading down makes a lot of sense. But that assumes that OT is worked out first. Don't think the team has that luxury if OT is still a need. That's why I posted earlier that signing Kelly as a starter makes sense. It opens up the trade down option. Is Kelly good enough? We'll see what JRob thinks. Trading down probably nets a top of the 4th pick in return. In this scenario, my assumption was that we didn't get Conklin, but got Kelly. Adams to push Kelly makes sense to me--or another T in that spot. I don't think going in with Kelly sets the world on fire, but having someone like Adams to push him would make me a lot more comfortable. ctm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bink Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Another scenario--a trade down with Miami to 2.7. They are game to pick up Tyler Biadasz and want to jump over the Seahawks and some of the teams picking at the top of 2. We make that happen and net an extra 3rd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcblanton Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, Bink said: We are in a bit of a unique position with the volume of free agents we're dealing with this upcoming season and the limited amount of draft capital we have. I am in the camp that believes we'll bring back Tannehill and Henry, and it's possible we bring back Conklin too. Assuming we don't on the latter, we're in the need for a CB, OT, LB with additional need for RB depth as either Henry insurance/change of pace, interior oline depth, and more weapons across the board. We've shown we can hit well when it comes to the second round with AJ Brown and Landry. I think the Bears, with 43 and 50, and the Falcons, with 47 and 55, should be on our radar as potential trade down partners. Both of these are a win for us in terms of draft value charts. Thoughts? Running through a quick scenario via First-pick, accepting a deal with Atlanta means we pick first at 2.15. In terms of pass rush, Julian Okwara is still on the board. He's the pick. At 2.23, AJ Terrell is still there, as is Trey Adams. I know Terrell profiles here or a bit higher, but Cameron Dantzler is there too, so there's reason to believe a talented CB will be available. I go Terrell. Adams is available at 2.29, so the 6'8 run bruiser is the pick. 2.15 Julian Okwara, DE/OLB Notre Dame 2.23 AJ Terrell, CB Clemson 2.29 Trey Adams, OT Washington 3. 29 Zach Moss, RB Utah 5.28 Thaddeus Moss, TE LSU 6.29 Steven Gonzalez, OG Penn State It feels like that extra pick really makes a difference, don't you think? As someone who doesn’t believe in Tannehill, I think you draft a qb in the first round. You may even want to trade up. If they don’t draft a qb, then trading down is the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bink Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, dcblanton said: As someone who doesn’t believe in Tannehill, I think you draft a qb in the first round. You may even want to trade up. If they don’t draft a qb, then trading down is the best option. I think if you don't believe in Tannehill, trading down is realistically a good option for us to get a QB to push him. Yes, the Titans should absolutely do their due diligence on Love and Tua. If you feel like Love is Mahomes or something--if you really believe that of course you have to go and get him, like the Chiefs did with their guy. I don't think that's realistic for us for a variety of reasons. Trading down means we can still address to immediate roster needs and get a QBOTF prospect. Fromm and Eason could very well be available in the middle of the second. Edited February 17, 2020 by Bink Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Depends on the state of the roster. Just as likely he moves up if someone has fallen that he loves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bink Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, AvgJoe said: Depends on the state of the roster. Just as likely he moves up if someone has fallen that he loves. Maybe, but I think this is less likely because of the lack of draft and roster capital and the need to have players on rookie contracts. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Bink said: I think if you don't believe in Tannehill, trading down is realistically a good option for us to get a QB to push him. Yes, the Titans should absolutely do their do diligence on Love and Tua. If you feel like Love is Mahomes or something--if you really believe that of course you have to go and get him, like the Chiefs did with their guy. I don't think that's realistic for us for a variety of reasons. Trading down means we can still address to immediate roster needs and get a QBOTF prospect. Fromm and Eason could very well be available in the middle of the second. Wtf does anyone see in love. I have asked this like 4 times and no one says anything. He looks like a backup midwest confrence bum with stats 2 match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Two additional second rounders would be great. I’d even be interested in a high 2nd and an additional 3rd. Either way, we could probably get a pretty decent haul if someone like Tua, Eason, Fromm or Love is still available at our pick. I could see a team trading up for our pick just to get the 5th year option on a qb. Otherwise, Atlanta or Chicago would need to fall in love with a skill position player that dropped. In that scenario, we may be interested in the same guy and just take him. This would be my first choice — though I think it’s more likely we fill the back end of the roster with cheap FAs and UDFA’s. Try and get more Correas and Khalif Raymond. Edited February 17, 2020 by Thrill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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