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I'd love for Pete to gain traction, he does have the ability to get out younger voters while still being able to appeal to traditional older, more moderate voters who don't care about his sexuality, which is the vast majority these days. He does have to get over his issues with minority voters. There needs to be a huge push for younger voters regardless of who wins the nomination.

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As I’ve gotten older, I value the heavily experienced and accomplished Washington politicians moreso than the energizing idealist types like I used to. I want a back room deal maker that knows everyone in Washington and when their kids birthdays are, a real one, not a Trumpian huckster. 

 

But I’d happily switch to Buttigieg if I thought there was any chance he could win Super Tuesday. I’ve followed him closely and he’s the smartest and most articulate candidate, and gives the best speeches in the field for sure. 

 

There’s some Obama to him, but unlike Obama when it comes to winning the South, he is not black and is gay (a real

problem for black and hispanic voters).

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Beating Trump should be the dems main focus and top priority. Touting socialism is going to turn a lot of voters off that might consider voting democratic. Get elected first and then advocate for moral and fiscal change but for now draw in as broad of a voter base as you can.
 

Flipping the senate is almost as important as who the president elect is. I hate to say it but the DNC needs to get down and dirty.

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Stick a fork in Biden 

 

Like it or not Sanders is the best chance to beat Trump. His supporters aren't going to vote for anyone else but Sanders and Sanders will stay in the race all the way until the end. If he's not the nominee it's going to really hurt whoever is.  Sanders will also get the younger vote like no one else will.

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40 minutes ago, tgo said:

As I’ve gotten older, I value the heavily experienced and accomplished Washington politicians moreso than the energizing idealist types like I used to. I want a back room deal maker that knows everyone in Washington and when their kids birthdays are, a real one, not a Trumpian huckster. 

 

Who are these backroom deal makers you speak of? 

 

Also how old are you?

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34 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Who are these backroom deal makers you speak of? 

 

Also how old are you?

 

I’m talking about Biden. Or someone like Hillary Clinton or John Kerry. Or Lyndon B Johnson. 

 

Remember when he rallied the votes for Obamacare and got his buddy Specter to switch parties for the 60th vote? Or how about the violence against women act he bullied through Congress over a 4 year period, or the Biden Crime Bill, or single handedly sinking Bork’s candidacy and convincing Reagan in a meeting to pick Kennedy as SCOTUS nominee? How about personally whipping the votes for the Consumer Protection Bureau that Warren went on to get famous for? 

 

I’m 29. I was a huge fan of idealist type politicians in high school and early on in college like most really young naive people. 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Stick a fork in Biden 

 

Like it or not Sanders is the best chance to beat Trump. His supporters aren't going to vote for anyone else but Sanders and Sanders will stay in the race all the way until the end. If he's not the nominee it's going to really hurt whoever is.  Sanders will also get the younger vote like no one else will.

 

I actually think Sanders may have a better shot than Bloomberg or Buttigieg to beat Trump, but I can’t imagine supporting Sanders personally. 

 

And he’d be a huge drag down ballot of course. 

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3 minutes ago, tgo said:

 

I actually think Sanders may have a better shot than Bloomberg or Buttigieg to beat Trump, but I can’t imagine supporting Sanders. 

 

1 minute ago, TF_Titan said:

I just can't see Sanders getting much support from moderates.


If not for Trump, I don’t think Sanders would fare very well. But with Trump as the opponent, plenty of people would support anyone the Dems nominate.

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10 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

 


If not for Trump, I don’t think Sanders would fare very well. But with Trump as the opponent, plenty of people would support anyone the Dems nominate.

 

Exactly, people are going to be voting against Trump

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10 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

If not for Trump, I don’t think Sanders would fare very well. But with Trump as the opponent, plenty of people would support anyone the Dems nominate.

 

I think you're over-estimating the visceral hate moderates have for Trump. They may not like him personally, but they're not filled with a rage that's going to make them excited to vote for a socialist. The caveat would be if there was a recession between now and the election, but as long as the economy is strong I don't see it.

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22 minutes ago, tgo said:

 I can’t imagine supporting Sanders personally. 

 

Voting for or supporting?

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