oldschool Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: I've been paying mine and my wife's student debt too. It's something I have also dealt with. That doesn't mean that I should turn a blind eye to those that haven't been able to or decide that "I did it so screw you". Just because you suffered through something that doesn't mean that those who go after you should to. I don't want my kids to have to delay adulthood in part because of student debt that will astronomical by the time they reach college age (they're 5,4, and 2 years old right now). The goal is to make a better future for them not to force them through the same trials like some kind of social hazing ritual. Mine too. I'd like to curb them down to 0 or something so low anyone could afford it. Who wants to turn a blind eye to it? Thats the problem with the Bernie crowd. If you aren't with me 100% you are against me. I've read nothing but post after post acknowledging the situation needs to be addressed. Just because I don't agree all student debt should be canceled doesn't mean I'm turning a blind eye... abenjami 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornrow Wallace Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 I really don't understand how some of you cannot see how having an educated society would benefit all of us in essentially all aspects of life. High school is not enough anymore; the U.S. is quickly falling behind the rest of the industrialized world in education and the long-term effects of that could be catastrophic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, oldschool said: Who wants to turn a blind eye to it? Thats the problem with the Bernie crowd. If you aren't with me 100% you are against me. I've read nothing but post after post acknowledging the situation needs to be addressed. Just because I don't agree all student debt should be canceled doesn't mean I'm turning a blind eye... I didn't accuse anyone in this topic of turning a blind eye to it. I'm referring to people who hold the opinion "well you got yourself into this mess so bootstrap your way out of it". In a previous post I even said I've seen better solutions to this problem in this thread than I have heard from most politicians. Edited February 28, 2020 by Mythos27 IsntLifeFunny, oldschool, and Cornrow Wallace 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Cornrow Wallace said: you realize that literally every generation has said that about younger generations, grandpa? and that it's a misconception? It will be combined with making higher education free for all, so... All medical debt in this country should also be cancelled. You mean all bills to doctors will be just written off? Why stop there... why not housing? Mortgages? Grocery? I personally think I should write off the IRS..... You chose to get loans for schooling. It is not up to me to pay it. I cannot help it that you chose to major in bs studies and have a job that cannot pay your debt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornrow Wallace Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, El Guapo said: You mean all bills to doctors will be just written off? Why stop there... why not housing? Mortgages? Grocery? I personally think I should write off the IRS..... You chose to get loans for schooling. It is not up to me to pay it. I cannot help it that you chose to major in bs studies and have a job that cannot pay your debt... I'm paying my debts. Others should not have to even take on that debt to begin with. Health care is a human right. You should not go bankrupt because you got cancer. Edited February 28, 2020 by Cornrow Wallace Mythos27, MadMax, Bulluck4dmvp, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornrow Wallace Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 For those of you against free college, do you believe America would be better or worse if its citizens were more educated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 55 minutes ago, Cornrow Wallace said: For those of you against free college, do you believe America would be better or worse if its citizens were more educated? Its not the only part of the equation. Thats what Bernie lauds about Cuba and the country sucks. So more educated is fine but not at the destruction of its country. And by the way, I suppose you would want standardized texts to reflect your world view so maybe Cubs is a role model for you. Why not rail at schools charging outrageous tuitions while hoarding money and allowing lazy fucks to have tenure. There is no free anything. You just want someone else to pay for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mythos27 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Its not the only part of the equation. Thats what Bernie lauds about Cuba and the country sucks. So more educated is fine but not at the destruction of its country. And by the way, I suppose you would want standardized texts to reflect your world view so maybe Cubs is a role model for you. Why not rail at schools charging outrageous tuitions while hoarding money and allowing lazy fucks to have tenure. There is no free anything. You just want someone else to pay for it. Don't agree with everything you say, but this shit right here is facts. The schools are a huge part of the problem and no one is holding them accountable for their BS. I remember having to shell out like $200 for the newest edition of a book that was required by my syllabus only to show up to the first class meeting and realize that my professor wrote that book. It's a hustle. Starkiller, begooode, IsntLifeFunny, and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornrow Wallace Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, El Guapo said: Its not the only part of the equation. Thats what Bernie lauds about Cuba and the country sucks. So more educated is fine but not at the destruction of its country. And by the way, I suppose you would want standardized texts to reflect your world view so maybe Cubs is a role model for you. Why not rail at schools charging outrageous tuitions while hoarding money and allowing lazy fucks to have tenure. There is no free anything. You just want someone else to pay for it. the projection here is unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Mythos27 said: Don't agree with everything you say, but this shit right here is facts. The schools are a huge part of the problem and no one is holding them accountable for their BS. I remember having to shell out like $200 for the newest edition of a book that was required by my syllabus only to show up to the first class meeting and realize that my professor wrote that book. It's a hustle. Ha my favorite is when they get the suckers on the new edition. They literally added 5 pages from the old edition you can get used for 30 bucks and sell it for 250. I never had new books in school. Fuck that racket. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Cornrow Wallace said: For those of you against free college, do you believe America would be better or worse if its citizens were more educated? The republicans believe America would better with less education. Education has a tendency to give people funny ideas like, you know, science. Edited February 28, 2020 by MadMax OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Ha my favorite is when they get the suckers on the new edition. They literally added 5 pages from the old edition you can get used for 30 bucks and sell it for 250. I never had new books in school. Fuck that racket. You just described my entire college career. I'm grateful in that I wouldn't have my job without that degree but seriously fuck college. You're just old enough to know your getting fucked but lack the life experience to know how or why. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 It's not hard if you make the effort. https://www.nbcnews.com/better/amp/ncna1144416 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 Interesting conversation going own right now on FOXN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) Removed. Edited March 3, 2020 by Number9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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