Callidus Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: If the lowest carries he got in a game all season (15) got extrapolated out, it would still be more carries than Jonathon Taylor who got the 3rd most carries in the NFL. As long as Henry is on our team, our offense will force the ground and pound whether it's working or not What about total touches for backs? Edit: if he had 15 carries a game that would put him 12th in carries per game... Where did you get your stats? If you just want to go by players with 240 carries he would be tied for 5th that way and every guy has 35-60 catches to his 19 in that group. Edited January 20, 2021 by Callidus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Callidus said: What about total touches for backs? Edit: if he had 15 carries a game that would put him 12th in carries per game... Where did you get your stats? If you just want to go by players with 240 carries he would be tied for 5th that way and every guy has 35-60 catches to his 19 in that group. The stats are obviously a bit skewed since so few teams truly have workhorse backs. But keep in mind that we are talking about Henry's least involved game is still the 12th most in the entire NFL on a per game basis. Of course our game plan is going to be run it down their throat no matter what and just run it till it pops, because for better or worse it didn't bite us in the ass for most of the season. The total touches mean nothing to me because that's in the passing game, which my whole rambling point is that we didn't utilize it enough Edited January 20, 2021 by wiscotitansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, scine09 said: Righteous, was this the thread that you predicted that Winston/Bridgewater would get bigger contracts than Tannehill? Or was that another thread? There is no thread. What I said was both could produce the same as Tannehill with this offense. I still believe that to be the case. headhunter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, wiscotitansfan said: The stats are obviously a bit skewed since so few teams truly have workhorse backs. But keep in mind that we are talking about Henry's least involved game is still the 12th most in the entire NFL on a per game basis. Of course our game plan is going to be run it down their throat no matter what and just run it till it pops, because for better or worse it didn't bite us in the ass for most of the season. The total touches mean nothing to me because that's in the passing game, which my whole rambling point is that we didn't utilize it enough I get that I am fine with keeping his carries in check but 15 seems nuts. 20 is fine. And I am ok with passing it a bit more as well. Maybe it was the way you said it that had me going Wtf is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Righteous said: There is no thread. What I said was both could produce the same as Tannehill with this offense. I still believe that to be the case. Uh....no. You clearly said that both would get more interest in the market than Tannehill would. And when it was proven wrong you owned it. Which is fine. But you're way off base on Tannehill, both in how good he is and how the team views him. Otherwise they wouldn't be paying him what they are. Edited January 20, 2021 by scine09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, scine09 said: Uh....no. You clearly said that both would get more interest in the market than Tannehill would. And when it was proven wrong you owned it. Which is fine. But you're way off base on Tannehill, both in how good he is and how the team views him. Otherwise they wouldn't be paying him what they are. Exactly how much is Wentz making? Jimmy G? Kirk Cousins. Jacoby Brissett? Bad contracts are given out daily in the NFL. That's not a barometer of being good. Edited January 20, 2021 by Righteous IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Righteous said: Exactly how much is Wentz making? Jimmy G? Kirk Cousins. Jacoby Brissett? Bad contracts are given out daily in the NFL. That's not a barometer of being good. Ryan Tannehill was in the top 5-10 of literally every relevant QB metric. Try again. rns90, StephenIsLegend, and oldschool 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, scine09 said: Ryan Tannehill was in the top 5-10 of literally every relevant QB metric. Try again. Geez...I've heard the same thing from you about Jimmy G and Kirk Cousins, etc. He is what he is. And I am not saying he is trash but he will never win a SB. Now, it seems like a lot of fans on this Board are ok with just making the playoffs and winning a division here or there. I am not. I want dominance. Tannehill is not a top 5 -10 QB, no matter what the numbers say. You know it and I know it. Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Daniel Jones...he is in that range. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Righteous said: Geez...I've heard the same thing from you about Jimmy G and Kirk Cousins, etc. He is what he is. And I am not saying he is trash but he will never win a SB. Now, it seems like a lot of fans on this Board are ok with just making the playoffs and winning a division here or there. I am not. I want dominance. Tannehill is not a top 5 -10 QB, no matter what the numbers say. You know it and I know it. Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Daniel Jones...he is in that range. You're not gonna find an upgrade to Tannehill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Righteous said: Geez...I've heard the same thing from you about Jimmy G and Kirk Cousins, etc. He is what he is. And I am not saying he is trash but he will never win a SB. Now, it seems like a lot of fans on this Board are ok with just making the playoffs and winning a division here or there. I am not. I want dominance. Tannehill is not a top 5 -10 QB, no matter what the numbers say. You know it and I know it. Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Daniel Jones...he is in that range. From me? I’ve never defended Kirk Cousins. You’re thinking of someone else. Tannehill is absolutely a top 10 QB. By every metric. And Daniel Jones? WTF. Edited January 20, 2021 by scine09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, scine09 said: From me? I’ve never defended Kirk Cousins. You’re thinking is someone else. Tannehill is absolutely a top 10 QB. By every metric. And Daniel Jones? WTF. Dude literally doesn't like Tannehill because he's white. I've seen his dumb arguments before. He won't admit it though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Righteous Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, headhunter said: Dude literally doesn't like Tannehill because he's white. I've seen his dumb arguments before. He won't admit it though That's the dumbest shit I have ever heard! So I don't like Taylor Lewan? Ben Jones? Mike Vrabel? Arthur Jones? Dean Pees? Frank Wyckeck? Ray Childress? Bruce Matthews? Stop being silly? I guess Miami traded him for a 4th because he was White. Maybe he was left off the Pro Bowl team because he was White. Ask any non homer if they think Tannehill is a top 10 QB and see what response you will get. You are utterly ridiculous!! Edited January 20, 2021 by Righteous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, headhunter said: Dude literally doesn't like Tannehill because he's white. I've seen his dumb arguments before. He won't admit it though The fact that he'd take Teddy Bridgewater and Jameis Winston over him does lend credence to that. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, scine09 said: The fact that he'd take Teddy Bridgewater and Jameis Winston over him does lend credence to that. That is definitely his thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Righteous said: Geez...I've heard the same thing from you about Jimmy G and Kirk Cousins, etc. He is what he is. And I am not saying he is trash but he will never win a SB. Now, it seems like a lot of fans on this Board are ok with just making the playoffs and winning a division here or there. I am not. I want dominance. Tannehill is not a top 5 -10 QB, no matter what the numbers say. You know it and I know it. Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Daniel Jones...he is in that range. Tannehill is a top 5 QB by the metrics AND watching him play. The numbers back up what you SHOULD see with your eyes. But, I guess if you have a preference to skin color (which you’ve shown has been the case before), I could see where you’d be upset. But the more accurate level for Tannehill is in the range of 5-10. But he is capable of top 5 QB play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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