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3 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Can you repost them? I think Oman is correct in that Shanny doesn't trust Jimmy G because his history shows he likes to pass the ball.

I'll go back and see if I can find it.

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1 minute ago, big2033 said:

 

Running on first down is running on first down. 

 

It seems like "the wrong time" is when it doesn't work.

 

okay MR wishbone. I don't care who you are. Running 6 times in a row on 1st down against the Chiefs when the Middle is wide open is crazy. The bottomline is the team didn't adjust to what the Chiefs were doing. Its moronic to just line up and assume you will eventually out physical the other team.

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It seems like this is a trust Tannehill thing. You guys trust him more than maybe the staff does.

 

Me, as I've always said, don't know what his ceiling is. But I'm always wary when a staff doesn't go pass-first with a QB that's it's for a reason, and not just a philosophical thing.

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It's true that SF runs it more than the Titans. Although I'd like to see the context deeper

 

I'll guarantee he didn't in Atlanta and he'd rather throw it more. 

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2 minutes ago, big2033 said:

It seems like this is a trust Tannehill thing. You guys trust him more than maybe the staff does.

 

Me, as I've always said, don't know what his ceiling is. But I'm always wary when a staff doesn't go pass-first with a QB that's it's for a reason, and not just a philosophical thing.

 

pass first lol. Simply passing more on 1st down is not saying Tannehill should throw the same amount as Mahomes. 

 

Sharp had a great interview on the radio earlier this year where he broke down why teams should pass more on 1st down. It comes down to defenses are usually in the base defense and the matchups are advantageous for the offense. This becomes even more true if you have a viable Double or Triple TE set. Percetnage wise is much easier to pass than run on 1st down. 

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2 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

okay MR wishbone. I don't care who you are. Running 6 times in a row on 1st down against the Chiefs when the Middle is wide open is crazy. The bottomline is the team didn't adjust to what the Chiefs were doing. Its moronic to just line up and assume you will eventually out physical the other team.

 

Exempt that's what we've done all year.

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Just now, big2033 said:

It seems like this is a trust Tannehill thing. You guys trust him more than maybe the staff does.

 

Tannehill was elite on 1st down. 123 passer rating, 73% comp and averaged 11 yards per pass. 

 

Yea I trust him. 

 

And when I'm facing a KC team with Mahomes and playing 8 and 9 man fronts it's not even in question. You throw on 1st down every time 

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Just now, oldschool said:

 

pass first lol. Simply passing more on 1st down is not saying Tannehill should throw the same amount as Mahomes. 

 

I know you're not thinking in a extreme sense. But this successful team is philosophically similar to another successful team and it takes a certain commitment to make happen.

 

Again, to set up those PA bombs they are going to run on 1st down A LOT.

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I have no problem running the ball, because it forces the defense to react to your formations. Running it on one play and showing the same look later and then throwing it or using play action works, if you take it. We didn’t, simple case closed. We lost before halftime and that’s it. We were moving the ball at ease, everything was clicking then we got to cute tried running out the clock, and I blame Vrabel. He probably told Tanny not to check out of the second down run and use up time and go into half being up 3. 

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Giving money to Henry is the smartest play.  We have the cash.  Henry is a Earl Campbell,  Bo Jackson running back.  He changes the game.  You get better when you keep you Elite Players and try to add more to the mix.

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1 minute ago, big2033 said:

 

I know you're not thinking in a extreme sense. But this successful team is philosophically similar to another successful team and it takes a certain commitment to make happen.

 

Again, to set up those PA bombs they are going to run on 1st down A LOT.

 

running a lot is fine. 50/50 would be ideal. To your point they had everything set up to get a huge play right before the half and just ran it twice when the Chiefs were selling out to stop the run. 

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3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Tannehill was elite on 1st down. 123 passer rating, 73% comp and averaged 11 yards per pass. 

 

Yea I trust him. 

 

And when I'm facing a KC team with Mahomes and playing 8 and 9 man fronts it's not even in question. You throw on 1st down every time 

 

Couldn't Tannehill's 1st down number be attributed the sampling and situations? We run it a lot, so when we throw it, it's effective. This is a chicken and the egg thing.

 

I'm not saying I have the answers, but we've been through this complaint before with Mariota.

 

And you just brought up Garoppolo. Could it be that our team sees Tannehill largely as a game manager who needs a heavy run-first philosophy to maximize his skills?

 

While you guys see more balance.

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SF and TEN were almost identical in their overall run/pass ratios on first down.  Where it differs is that the Titans were more run heavy on first down in the first halves than SF.  The Titans were 60/40 run/pass whereas SF was 48/52.....

 

In the 2nd half, SF was 73/27 run/pass and the Titans were 64/36 run/pass.

 

I'm sure it will be something the team looks at in the offseason to get a little more balance early on. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, oldschool said:

 

running a lot is fine. 50/50 would be ideal. To your point they had everything set up to get a huge play right before the half and just ran it twice when the Chiefs were selling out to stop the run. 

 

We also had instances where in the two-minute drill we ran it with Henry to success. We're not going to go away from him unless we have to. Most of the time our plan will start with him.

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1 minute ago, big2033 said:

 

Couldn't Tannehill's 1st down number be attributed the sampling and situations? We run it a lot, so when we throw it, it's effective. This is a chicken and the egg thing.

 

Exactly, maybe in some situations teams stack the box and play 8 and 9 man fronts, maybe even goaline defenses. That def makes it very advantageous to throw the ball on 1st down.....

 

You know, just like yesterday!

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