oldschool Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, tgo said: Not sure why the defense is getting hammered so much here. Yes, there were breakdowns at times but that’s what happens with Mahommes. They played about as well as you could reasonably expect overall, only allowing 21 points in 3 quarters. This game was lost mostly due to offensive failure. It's absolutely more on the offense. That doesn't mean the Titans anemic pass rush wasn't on full display today. With a better pass rush maybe you hold on a few of those 3rd and longs. rns90, and PetroleroTitanico 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaTitan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, tgo said: Tagging him will cost 16+M though. I'm fine with it unless it means sacrificing other spots. I'd prioritize Henry, Tanny, then Conklin.....I think Ryan walks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, cenj said: Also, I've argued against signing Conklin for a long time now, and I still hold to it. He's overrated around here. You don't pay a RT 15M if he's below average at pass protection. Yeah, you can find solid run blocking RT where we are picking. I hope that Davenport and Kuharsky are correct and they have made the determination to let him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IsntLifeFunny Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 The 3rd down and 1 down 4 was one of the worst plays I’ve ever seen. They literally went goalline defense. 9 in the box with less than a yard and we hand it off? Either play action deep or QB sneak. Sheesh. We lost the game right there. rns90, GLinks, Downtown, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said: The 3rd down and 1 down 4 was one of the worst plays I’ve ever seen. They literally went goalline defense. 9 in the box with less than a yard and we hand it off? Either play action deep or QB sneak. Sheesh. We lost the game right there. We lost it with the play calling on the drive starting at the 4 minute mark before the half, but yeah that was stupid. OILERMAN, PetroleroTitanico, oldschool, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, cenj said: Also, I've argued against signing Conklin for a long time now, and I still hold to it. He's overrated around here. You don't pay a RT 15M if he's below average at pass protection. While I don’t agree that he’s overrated, you can’t devote this much money to the OL. Draft a new RT this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtown Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: The 3rd down and 1 down 4 was one of the worst plays I’ve ever seen. They literally went goalline defense. 9 in the box with less than a yard and we hand it off? Either play action deep or QB sneak. Sheesh. We lost the game right there. Yep. For some reason we went into a shell and the momentum never came back to us. We played to lose. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtown Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Our future is really all about development and hoping young talent steps up. We’re not in a position to upgrade much (if at all) through FA. In this draft you can find a RT and a Nickelback in the first three rounds. So makes sense to let Conklin and Ryan go. We should also be able to instantly upgrade Dion Lewis in the draft which is fortunate because it’s probably the only spot on the offense we can afford to upgrade. We should also be able to go after pass rush with the rest of the draft. If they can work it out to cut Walker or restructure some of the older vet contracts, we might actually get an upgrade on D. But we have a poor history of pushing our operating budgets beyond the league mandates and the Titans chose to upgrade facilities in a surging year while needing cash flow to keep the family going. Not a good combination for pushing the cap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, VaTitan said: I'm fine with it unless it means sacrificing other spots. I'd prioritize Henry, Tanny, then Conklin.....I think Ryan walks. Ryan will go where he gets the best deal. I don't think it'll be from us AvgJoe, rns90, tgo, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 The Titans attempted a pass on 1st down 4 times heading into the 4th quarter yesterday. Ryan Tannehill was 3 for 4 for 46 yards on those 4 attempts. Tannehill finished the game with a solid 108 passer rating. KC completely sold out to stop the run, Romo even pointed out on one 1st down KC had no one back and were actually in a goaline defense and the Titans ran the ball. KC's defense was not capable of stopping the run without leaving themselves wide open to down field passes by Tannehill. But Vrabel(and it's def Vrabel not Smith) chose to make the offense play with one hand behind it's back. This wasn't just a problem today, it was a problem all year. The Titans overcame it by having a ridiculous redzone offense. I feel exactly how I did after the wildcard game against the Bills when Fisher did the same thing. If Vrabel doesn't adjust this then all the other strengths he has as a HC are meaningless. cenj, Aramis, oldschool, and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: The Titans attempted a pass on 1st down 4 times heading into the 4th quarter yesterday. Ryan Tannehill was 3 for 4 for 46 yards on those 4 attempts. Tannehill finished the game with a solid 108 passer rating. KC completely sold out to stop the run, Romo even pointed out on one 1st down KC had no one back and were actually in a goaline defense and the Titans ran the ball. KC's defense was not capable of stopping the run without leaving themselves wide open to down field passes by Tannehill. But Vrabel(and it's def Vrabel not Smith) chose to make the offense play with one hand behind it's back. This wasn't just a problem today, it was a problem all year. The Titans overcame it by having a ridiculous redzone offense. I feel exactly how I did after the wildcard game against the Bills when Fisher did the same thing. If Vrabel doesn't adjust this then all the other strengths he has as a HC are meaningless. This is exactly how I feel today and I'm not optimistic anything will change. Vrabel's other primary flaw is sheer arrogance. We could see a scenario where the team forces an experienced OC on him in a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: The Titans attempted a pass on 1st down 4 times heading into the 4th quarter yesterday. Ryan Tannehill was 3 for 4 for 46 yards on those 4 attempts. Tannehill finished the game with a solid 108 passer rating. KC completely sold out to stop the run, Romo even pointed out on one 1st down KC had no one back and were actually in a goaline defense and the Titans ran the ball. KC's defense was not capable of stopping the run without leaving themselves wide open to down field passes by Tannehill. But Vrabel(and it's def Vrabel not Smith) chose to make the offense play with one hand behind it's back. This wasn't just a problem today, it was a problem all year. The Titans overcame it by having a ridiculous redzone offense. I feel exactly how I did after the wildcard game against the Bills when Fisher did the same thing. If Vrabel doesn't adjust this then all the other strengths he has as a HC are meaningless. Tannehills passer rating doesn’t really reflect how he played. I thought he was jittery and KC dropped 4 interceptions. They passed 4 times in a row in the second half, it didn’t go well and that basically ended the game. I don’t think it was really a play calling issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted January 20, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said: Tannehills passer rating doesn’t really reflect how he played. I thought he was jittery and KC dropped 4 interceptions. They passed 4 times in a row in the second half, it didn’t go well and that basically ended the game. I don’t think it was really a play calling issue Throwing the ball only 4 times on 1st down through 3 quarters set RT up for failure. You can't wait for the team to be down double digits and pass the ball. KC sold out to stop the run and the Titans counter was to run the ball. Failure kgsTitan, Justafan, oldschool, and 3 others 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, IrishTitansFan said: Tannehills passer rating doesn’t really reflect how he played. I thought he was jittery and KC dropped 4 interceptions. They passed 4 times in a row in the second half, it didn’t go well and that basically ended the game. I don’t think it was really a play calling issue Lol what? Dropped 4 interceptions? Tannehill had one bad throw he short hopped to Brown that I can remember. The Breeland almost int was on Davis for a poor route and not coming back to the ball. You cant really hold him responisble for throws down 18 late in the 4th. At that point he has to take risks to score quickly. Edited January 20, 2020 by oldschool AvgJoe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTitansFan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, OILERMAN said: Throwing the ball only 4 times on 1st down through 3 quarters set RT up for failure. You can't wait for the team to be down double digits and pass the ball. KC sold out to stop the run and the Titans counter was to run the ball. Failure So did Baltimore and they got burned too. It just didn’t work this time. They passed the ball more than the first two playoff games. Ideally you’d like to see more of it but the way the game was going he was lucky not to have mutiple turnovers so I can see the logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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