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Just now, luvyablue256 said:

Amy seems to be the anti-Bud so far. Spends without meddling. Bud was the complete opposite. Meddled without spending. Facilities rotting from the core...

 

Correct, which is why the whole Mariota starting thing is so absurd.  She hires good people and let's them do their job. 

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4 minutes ago, BudAdams said:

 

Correct, which is why the whole Mariota starting thing is so absurd.  She hires good people and let's them do their job. 

 

I do think she played a role in that but not nearly as much as Bud would've done.

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1 minute ago, BudAdams said:

Well Bud made them take VY and then play him so yeah.  It's why Fisher disengaged and they "agreed to part ways"

 

It's also why Fisher kept his job an extra couple years.  VY was shit, but he saved Fisher job...twice.

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3 minutes ago, IowaOiler said:

 

It's also why Fisher kept his job an extra couple years.  VY was shit, but he saved Fisher job...twice.

 

No he didn't.  There was no way Fisher was in danger in 2006.  One can argue 2009's 0-6 start was a hot seat but it took masterful coaching to make VY functional on the NFL level went they finished 8-2.

 

We literally have just seen what a difference QB play makes in the NFL in going from Mariota to Tannehill.  Fisher was saddled with VY, not the other way around....

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1 minute ago, BudAdams said:

 

No he didn't.  There was no way Fisher was in danger in 2006.  One can argue 2009's 0-6 start was a hot seat but it took masterful coaching to make VY functional on the NFL level went they finished 8-2.

 

We literally have just seen what a difference QB play makes in the NFL in going from Mariota to Tannehill.  Fisher was saddled with VY, not the other way around....

 

He was absolutely on the hot seat in 2006...we started 2-7, and it was coming down to Floyd or Fisher.  Ending the season one win from the playoffs made that choice Fisher. 

 

If Fisher was 'saddled' with VY in 2009, and so amazing at coaching that he could take an idiot and make him serviceable, why couldn't he win a single game with Collins that year? 

 

Your argument doesn't make sense.  The fact is, Fisher was on his way out and Bud forcing him to play VY is what saved his job...twice.  I'm not disagreeing that VY was an awful thrower of the pointy ball, but just that he did seem to rally the team those years, and that can mean a lot.  Fisher sure as fuck wasn't rallying anyone, unless you're referencing the Colts fans when he wore that Manning jersey during the bye week.

 

Also, don't forget what Goff was with Fisher vs. what he is with McVay.  Fisher has hindered every QB he's been associated with.

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The only times I think Fisher was really on the hot seat were after the 1998 season and early in the 2002 season when they started 1-4.  I don't necessarily think he was in 2006 because expectations were so low and they had a rookie QB.

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