Mythos27 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, 'Nator said: Total moderate. His healthcare legislation was fucking Romneycare! No doubt he governed as a moderate but he certainly campaigned like a progressive. The themes of hope and change were essential to his presidential run and part of why he was so well liked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Little Earl said: You are such a moron. Anyone with common sense knows Obama was a liberal. He was even named most liberal Senator one year. He and Bill Clinton moved somewhat towards the center after getting absolutely destroyed in the mid terms, but that was for political survival. Shut the fuck up Earl. He governed as a centrist. You don't know what you are talking about as per usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Rolltide said: WG=Moron! lol Obama was pretty solid on the left when it came to court appointments, climate change and his rhetoric. He was not as anti business as he sounded and he did kill some bad guys. Obama had good political sense and the discipline to not say too many things that would hurt his campaign. Also we now know that Obama does not really believe any of this climate change nonsense. 2 hours ago, Rolltide said: Quapo wrote a fair post that did not bash anybody but WG had to be a dick about it anyway. He can't help himself. Max even said he can respect what was said but WG only respects hardcore Stalinism. 5 hours ago, Rolltide said: I guess a hardcore Marxist would not think Obama is very liberal. Of course the Marxist WG was an asshole about it. Most of the hate Trump demitards on these boards insist they are moderates. They lie. No libtard will admit they are the socialists they are. If you hate every single thing Trump does or says you are no moderate. 3 posts and not a single true statement. Pathetic trolltard. El Guapo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, WG53 said: Shut the fuck up Earl. He governed as a centrist. You don't know what you are talking about as per usual. You know, in some ways it's the RIGHT that is responsible for Bernie and Warren and AOC, the Squad etc by hurling the SOCIALIST MARXIST label on to Obama for years, making him out to be fuckin Pol Pot, refusing any compromise with him at all on moderate policies, where else did Democrats have to go? I mean there was ZERO compromise on the health care bill, which was originally a Republican created bill in the 90s, implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. If a moderate health care bill is out, or in this case, stripped -- what's left to push for? Edited January 15, 2020 by 'Nator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, 'Nator said: You know, in some ways it's the RIGHT that is responsible for Bernie and Warren and AOC, the Squad etc by hurling the SOCIALIST MARXIST label on to Obama for years, making him out to be fuckin Pol Pot, refusing any compromise with him at all on moderate policies, where else did Democrats have to go? I mean there was ZERO compromise on the health care bill, which was originally a Republican created bill in the 90s, implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. If a moderate health care bill is out, or in this case, stripped -- what's left to push for? This is what people like @tgo can't seem to grasp. And why Biden is a terrible idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WG53 said: This is what people like @tgo can't seem to grasp. And why Biden is a terrible idea. I actually agree with him about the election. Now getting things done while in office is a different story. But this election is about beating Trump and nothing else. I could be wrong on this but I just don't think I am. I am going with the fact that most old ass white rust belt people are stupid and racist. Period. My life experience has borne that out! Some will vote for Biden because he's an old white guy that doesn't disrupt their sensibilities. They won't vote for a woman or a socialist. They just won't. Biden is highly popular with the black Obama voter. He'll get those people out to vote -- and he is popular enough with the old white crowd to flip those rust belt states. You folks still aren't getting how vehemently HATED Hillary was/is. A good portion of Trump votes were anti-Hillary protest votes. Biden doesn't stir haters like that. Now's not the time to go ultra progressive, you'll just hand the presidency back to dumb fuck Donnie. Edited January 15, 2020 by 'Nator IsntLifeFunny, No1TitansFan, tgo, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Biden is just a less hated male Hillary. Nominating Biden will have the same result. Rolltide 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rolltide said: Why is it so important to get rid of Trump is he doing too good a job for our country for you to stand it? He did everything he said he was going to do and it seems to be working. Not one of the democrats running would be a competent president. Here we go with more delusional bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, 'Nator said: I mean there was ZERO compromise on the health care bill, which was originally a Republican created bill in the 90s, implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. If a moderate health care bill is out, or in this case, stripped -- what's left to push for? Keep in mind that Obama wanted a much more liberal plan. Thanks to defections from Democrats, we got the lessor version. Like the single payer option, it was only scrapped because he didn't have the votes. Btw, the Democrats refused to consider the Republican ideas either. Rolltide 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG53 Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, Rolltide said: Everything I said was 100% true. Wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Obama and Trump both ran as progressives, Bernie ran as a progressive and all polls had him easily beating Trump. We better get a moderate like Hillary! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Obama and Trump both ran as progressives, Bernie ran as a progressive and all polls had him easily beating Trump. We better get a moderate like Hillary! The polls had Hillary easily beating Trump. Try again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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