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5 minutes ago, JoelinBellevue said:

I think they have some say in it.

I don't think so. The NFL is nothing like the NBA. Which is quite wild how the top players can control FA like they do.

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Just now, JoelinBellevue said:

I think they have some say in it.

 

The Browns/Giants? Yeah, I'm just saying OBJ had no say in it. Well, he could have had a say in the first place by not saying a damn thing and not giving the Giants motive to get rid of his malcontent ass. Idk if he'd be in a better spot though. The Giants QB situation is looking worse than the Browns.

 

I still think the Browns main problem is Kitchens. He's basically Jason Garrett's coaching twin. Just a figurehead mouthpiece, with maybe a little more leash. But Mayfield might not be all that his ego has cracked him out to be either. Time will tell.

 

In the meantime what that team needs is a coach who can handle all those big personalities, whoever that might be.

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1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

The Browns/Giants? Yeah, I'm just saying OBJ had no say in it. Well, he could have had a say in the first place by not saying a damn thing and not giving the Giants motive to get rid of his malcontent ass. Idk if he'd be in a better spot though. The Giants QB situation is looking worse than the Browns.

 

I still think the Browns main problem is Kitchens. He's basically Jason Garrett's coaching twin. Just a figurehead mouthpiece, with maybe a little more leash. But Mayfield might not be all that his ego has cracked him out to be either. Time will tell.

 

In the meantime what that team needs is a coach who can handle all those big personalities, whoever that might be.

Williams was doing a great job, but Mayfield and Kitchens are buds. They thought this is what he needed. 

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1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

Just another reason the NBA kinda sucks in the modern era.

It has recently, and truly not fun to watch until they play defense in the playoffs. One thing I do like about it now though is how much more even the playing field is. There's not a "big 3" anywhere, but instead a plethora of dynamic duos so to speak.

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8 minutes ago, JoelinBellevue said:

Williams was doing a great job, but Mayfield and Kitchens are buds. They thought this is what he needed. 

 

I don't know if Williams is what he needed, but he definitely needed someone other than Kitchens.

 

7 minutes ago, Stan17 said:

It has recently, and truly not fun to watch until they play defense in the playoffs. One thing I do like about it now though is how much more even the playing field is. There's not a "big 3" anywhere, but instead a plethora of dynamic duos so to speak.

 

Teams score more points now, but is that really exciting? Three pointers used to be the ultimate in jump shots. Now they're almost generic. The new 2 pointer.

 

It just seems like defense is nothing but an afterthought and the center position is nothing but an appendage. Where are the Robinsons, Duncans, Shaqs, Olajuwons, Kareems, etc? Just seems like there are no dominant big men in the game anymore.

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5 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

I don't know if Williams is what he needed, but he definitely needed someone other than Kitchens.

 

 

Teams score more points now, but is that really exciting? Three pointers used to be the ultimate in jump shots. Now they're almost generic. The new 2 pointer.

 

It just seems like defense is nothing but an afterthought and the center position is nothing but an appendage. Where are the Robinsons, Duncans, Shaqs, Olajuwons, Kareems, etc? Just seems like there are no dominant big men in the game anymore.

I 100% agree. Closest thing to a true center now is Anthony Davis, who is a stud. But he wouldn't be able to bang down low with someone like a Shaq (though who could?). I actually made the comment to my roommate the other night, NBA is all dunks, layups, or three pointers.. hardly ever see a mid range jump shot anymore.

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28254886/baker-mayfield-says-odell-beckham-jr-injury-handled-right

 

Look!  That hunk of man-beef is also a doctor!  Such an alpha... is there anything he CAN'T do?  I mean, besides win?  That part isn't as important as passing eye tests and being a pile of masculinity.  

 

Wait.  The medical team got their feelings hurt?  Bunch of betas.  Bak May can say whatever he wants about HIS team, damnit.  

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11 hours ago, Stan17 said:

I don't think so. The NFL is nothing like the NBA. Which is quite wild how the top players can control FA like they do.

Well, OBJ can say 'you can trade me to Cleveland but I won't play for them.'  Then why would Cleveland make the trade.

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