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Fast and furious a far worse scandal than Ukraine..

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There is no question about the crime committed here. No fishing involved. The Obama administration dumped 2000 high powered weapons into Mexico and many of them, hundreds found their way into the hands of the cartel.

 

The result was hundreds of shootings committed with these guns and hundreds of deaths. A Mexican police superintendent was murdered as was a US border patrol agent with these guns  These guns have been documented in 11 crime scenes in the USA.  The guns most likely are still being used in crimes and some may have been used in the murder of 9 Americans including 6 kids. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html

 

Obstruction of justice. Obama fired the whistle blower. According to libtards whistle blowers are heroes. Obama treated whistle blowers like shit. The administration did not cooperate in any way with a house investigation into this scandal. Eric Holder was held in contempt of congress by a 255-67 vote! Let me repeat a 255-67 vote. Not partisan!

 

The director of the ATF was fired and the attorney general of Arizona resigned in mid term to avoid charges. 

 

This is a scandal that caused people to die! 

 

 

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Perhaps a reach but Ben Shapiro makes the comparison between Iran-Contra and Fast and furious. He makes that comparison because in both cases we placed dangerous weapons into the hands of our enemies. 

 

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/ben-shapiro/does-fast-and-furious-put-impeachment-table

 

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This was the Reichstag fire of the Second Amendment. By authorizing the passage of weapons to America's enemies, President Obama and his administration clearly wanted to set up a narrative that America's lax gun laws were killing American troops and law enforcement officers. They wanted their misuse of law enforcement authority to create the impetus for a crackdown on gun sales in the United States.

 

So to prove a political point Obama-holder caused the death of hundreds of people. 

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Of course you people do not care. Who gives a shit about a few hundred dead Mexicans compared to a 30 minute phone call?

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6 minutes ago, Rolltide said:

Perhaps a reach but Ben Shapiro makes the comparison between Iran-Contra and Fast and furious. He makes that comparison because in both cases we placed dangerous weapons into the hands of our enemies. 

 

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/ben-shapiro/does-fast-and-furious-put-impeachment-table

 

 

So to prove a political point Obama-holder caused the death of hundreds of people. 

 

You're such a tool. Why didn't the Republican controlled House and Senate start impeachment proceedings?

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1 minute ago, Rolltide said:

Of course you people do not care. Who gives a shit about a few hundred dead Mexicans compared to a 30 minute phone call?

 

You are an even worse comedian than libertarian. You are misreading your crowd. No one gives a shit about your thinly, veiled, excuse making agenda.

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6 minutes ago, Btowner said:

 

You're such a tool. Why didn't the Republican controlled House and Senate start impeachment proceedings?

 

So every president should be impeached then? Republicans were not morons like the democrats today. You only prove what an ass you are. You have no standards this has nothing to do with you supporting good and honest government you are just a partisan ass. 

 

This was a serious scandal that involved people dying. Holder was held in contempt of congress and the Obama administration did everything possible to obstruct and not cooperate with the investigation. You don't care. 

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Should Obama been impeached for close talking with that Russian about something as serious as missile defense? You tell me libtards. You people like calling everybody a Russian asset. What do you call this? Telling the Russian president you will suck his dick after the election? You want to impeach and remove a president from office for less. This is collusion on video with our national security involved!

 

https://youtu.be/keXx0zxTarE?t=28

 

It just proves how you are all full of shit. If this was Trump you would be calling him a traitor. 

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Trump has a major hard on for Obama, is totally threatened by him. If there was even a whiff of truth to this, the Republicans would have been all over this when they had complete control. There is no other way to spin it

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You super patriots are so full of shit. What if Trump had given an arch enemy of our country $1.8B cash and freed up $150B in frozen assets? What if as part of that deal he agreed to free 7 dangerous terrorists?

 

What if Trump lied and called those 7 "civilians"?

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/24/obama-iran-nuclear-deal-prisoner-release-236966

 

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In reality, some of them were accused by Obama’s own Justice Department of posing threats to national security. Three allegedly were part of an illegal procurement network supplying Iran with U.S.-made microelectronics with applications in surface-to-air and cruise missiles like the kind Tehran test-fired recently, p

 

Come on you hypocrites. You are the super patriots! 

 

What about the 14 fugitives that Obama agreed to drop charges for? 

 

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And in a series of unpublicized court filings, the Justice Department dropped charges and international arrest warrants against 14 other men, all of them fugitives. 

 

 

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especially the 14 fugitives — can now continue activities the U.S. considers to be serious threats to its national security, Lincy said.

“This is a scandal,” she said. “The cases bear all the hallmarks of exactly the kinds of national security threats we’re still going after. It’s stunning and hard to understand why we would do this.”

 

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Obama and the Russian president were negotiating missile defense systems for NATO. They were not sharing Stroganoff  recipes.  Certainly you super patriots would be bothered by that. There is a word for it, collusion!

 

So was Obama a Russian asset or an Iranian asset? You are the super patriots with the ultra high standards. A bunch of hyper moral patriots! Yeah right. 

 

Why the higher standards for Trump? 

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What’s interesting here is that a thorough House and Senate investigation was done over this and didn’t find the “smoking gun” you’re claiming exists , yet you’re against the equivalent investigations being done into Trump’s actions. 
 

It’s almost as if you’re biased and seeing whatever delusions you want in old news articles. 

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1 minute ago, Downtown said:

What’s interesting here is that a thorough House and Senate investigation was done over this and didn’t find the “smoking gun” you’re claiming exists , yet you’re against the equivalent investigations being done into Trump’s actions. 
 

It’s almost as if you’re biased and seeing whatever delusions you want in old news articles. 

 

Thorough? The Obama administration obstructed the investigation and refused to cooperate. Why did they fire the whistle blower? They are super patriots who only tell the truth remember.

 

Nothing equivalent about the current investigation. Did Try Gowdy want to interview select witnesses  in private. Did he coach those witnesses in what to say?

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