IsntLifeFunny Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: You def were wishy washy, giving him way too much credit for wins last year and saying they could still win it all with him just a few weeks ago. Not to mention you being the most vocal(aside from the self banned Jamal) about him needing to play from some Mahomes type spread, which is completely false. Lol I said if he could be average we could go deep in the playoffs with this defense and talent on offense, which I believe is true. If Tannehill can be an average QB then we are a dangerous team every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 I don’t think his seat is even warm yet...but after a strong coaching performance last year, this year has been a decided step in the wrong direction. We’ve seen several ill-advised or just straight-up dumb coaching decisions that need to be cleaned up. He’s got to be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvgJoe Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 I think Vrabel will improve. But I think if you are Robinson, you definitely consider a switch or at the very least tell Vrabel you are hiring an OC and he has no input in the game plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stats Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Thrill said: Belichick would throw a wrench into a lot of that research Yeah, no doubt. His situation is an outlier in just about every respect (HOF coach, HOF QB, massage-parlor-frequenting owner, etc.). Thrill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Unless the decision to stick with Mariota was made by AAS I'm pretty much out on both JRob and Vrabel. The way the situation was handled created a lost season. They should have just bit the bullet and moved on. I'm already out on Vrabel as a coach, but I don't see him getting fired unless we end up only winning 1-2 more games. Ideally we hire an OC to be the head coach and draft a new QB. I think it's bad to have a defensive head coach dictating a conservative offense. Any good OC will get hired as a HC right now. I do think the OC churn is generally bad for your offense, especially a young QB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted October 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Unless the decision to stick with Mariota was made by AAS I'm pretty much out on both JRob and Vrabel. The way the situation was handled created a lost season. They should have just bit the bullet and moved on. I'm already out on Vrabel as a coach, but I don't see him getting fired unless we end up only winning 1-2 more games. Ideally we hire an OC to be the head coach and draft a new QB. I think it's bad to have a defensive head coach dictating a conservative offense. Any good OC will get hired as a HC right now. I do think the OC churn is generally bad for your offense, especially a young QB. Out on both? Wow. I'm getting there - not there yet - on Vrabel. As for Robinson, I hate how he handled the coaching search and believe he's probably not very good at evaluating coaches. I think he's done a pretty solid job with the roster though. Tnasty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 A talented QB is all he needs. It's all Jrob needs. It's all the line needs. Marcus is such a nice solid individual, they hate to see it. If Marcus had a different personality or visible character flaws, the whole team and staff would be shitting on him publicly. This would be over. But he's a great guy and ya hate to see it. kyle021 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 There's more than one hot seat at St. Thomas sports park today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 The reality is that Vrabel is a reflection of Robinson. Fair or not, Robinson convinced the ownership to fire Mularkey off a playoff season and then handpicked Vrabel from a small coaching search pool. I'd also argue that Robinson is vastly overrated on TR. Yes, his regime is better than Webster/Beddinfield but that's not much of an accomplishment. That said, he's had as many misses as hits and far too often paid big money for players who have not lived up to contracts. He ignored QB until this spring even though the signs on Mariota not panning out were there even in 2016. If this season continues down the path it's on, ownership has to question the leadership of the whole thing. How could they not? Former_Fan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle021 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 His seat isn’t hot. he took over a team built for MM and not the QB he has in mind for the long term. He was forced with trying to make it right with MM before he got his own shiny new toy. he tried. he gets a solid roster and a new QB and a clean slate at the end of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle021 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jonboy said: Out on both? Wow. I'm getting there - not there yet - on Vrabel. As for Robinson, I hate how he handled the coaching search and believe he's probably not very good at evaluating coaches. I think he's done a pretty solid job with the roster though. JR has been damn good at drafting. for the most part his FA picks have been decent. who would have guessed Saffold and Lewis would have been huge busts? Quite frankly none of us. They seemed like sure things. Butler is having a good almost great year and Ryan is amazing. JR team building prowess is just fine. Vrabel is a damn good coach. they need an OC with experience and a new QB Smith at OC was basically forced to keep continuity on the offense and a last ditch attempt at keeping things easy for MM. they have to blow up the offense in the offseason DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Vrabel started with a team that was 9-7 from 2017 and won a playoff game. In 2018, his team was again 9-7 but failed to make the playoffs. This year the team has taken a big step backwards and Vrabel is now exactly .500. Unless things change dramatically he will be under .500 at year end, perhaps significantly so. If we don't judge a head coach by his record, then what do we judge him by? Edited October 14, 2019 by ctm DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 We know Mariota isn't the answer. I'm starting to think Vrabel isn't the answer, and JRob needs to be held accountable too. At what point does AAS get tired of owning a mediocre franchise that is clearly regressing. It is becoming broken, so you fix it, starting at the top. This continuity bullshit is half the reason we are in this situation. I'm shocked Carter hasn't been shown the door, and feel like Smith could be a one year experiment as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Former_Fan said: We know Mariota isn't the answer. I'm starting to think Vrabel isn't the answer, and JRob needs to be held accountable too. At what point does AAS get tired of owning a mediocre franchise that is clearly regressing. It is becoming broken, so you fix it, starting at the top. This continuity bullshit is half the reason we are in this situation. I'm shocked Carter hasn't been shown the door, and feel like Smith could be a one year experiment as well. You have a long way to go for AAS to sour on JRob, and because of that Vrabel isn't going anywhere for a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, japan said: You have a long way to go for AAS to sour on JRob, and because of that Vrabel isn't going anywhere for a couple of years. Like a losing record, trainwreck at QB, and a half empty stadium after said GM convinced you to fire the HC after a season with a playoff win because the talent wasn't being maximized? Robinson has not seized the day with having more control. Former_Fan, and japan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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