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Have you read or heard the Whistle Blower Complaint?

 

Giuliani might be convicted of crimes when serious officials take over again. 

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The complaint cites about four or five trips that Giuliani made to Ukraine since late Winter/early Spring of this year.  Giuliani's  mission, each time, was to convince the new Ukraine president to "play ball" - Giuliani actually used those words in his request. 

 

He requested that the new Ukraine government do a series of investigations to find/confirm:  1) that it was the Ukrainians, not Russians,  who interfered in the 2016 US election and not for Trump but for Clinton and the Democratic National Committee, 2) The Ukrainians hacked into the DNC server, not Russians, at the request of the DNC, 3) the Obama diplomat directed the Ukraine prosecution to stay away from specific individuals (a made up do-not-prosecute list) and 4) that there was a halted investigation into Hunter Biden and it showed corruption on Biden's part but was stopped by Biden and Obama. 

 

Each time, Giuliani was told that there was no information on what he was requesting, that the Ukraine did not interfere  in the US election, that there was no list by the Obama Administration and that Hunter Biden was not a focus of any investigation (a company, for which Hunter Biden was on its Board of Director, was investigated but cleared.)  Each time Giuliani just said that in order for Ukraine to have favor with President Trump and the US, the new Ukrainian president better learn how to "play ball." 

 

The Whistle Blower said that when the State Department learned of Giuliani's activity, many State Department officials complained that Giuliani's activity was harming the National Security of the US and requested that he stop.  In response, Giuliani formally met with State Department officials, pleading he was doing nothing wrong and opining that he working in the US's interest. The State Department protested but Giuliani continued his activity.

 

Also in these requests, Giuliani promised Ukraine would be rewarded with Trump and the US's favor if it went along and it would  not be good if it did not.  During these episodes, the Trump Administration took actions to enforce those messages.  Trump made public comments that the Ukraine president needed to learn how to get along with US and get onto the same page.  At the last minute in a scheduled trip, VP Pence was told not to go to the Ukraine inauguration, with Rick Perry taking his place.  Ricky Perry delivered a message that Pence did not come because Ukraine was not "playing ball" and that it better start if it wants relations with the US.  There were other reinforcements including Trump pulling the military aid with officials noting that no rationale was giving as to why it was pulled.

 

In the formal complaint, all of the above was well footnoted with dates, sources etc. 

 

You can listen to the complaint verbatim at:  

 

 

 

Edited by 9 Nines

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1 hour ago, VaTitan said:

Given 9/11 and his role as mayor, it's amazing to that history will remember him as a lying stooge for idiot Trump.


He was given way too much credit back then. He was the same idiot who put the city's emergency response center in the biggest terror target in NYC over people's objections.

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Originally, there was talk that Rudy wanted to be Secretary of State. However, there were concerns about some of his business dealings and if he could pass the Senate confirmation process. Seems like, he's been acting as a shadow SoS on certain matters.

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If this impeachment gains traction I suspect Trump will turn on Giuliani and say all Giuliani's Ukraine activity was just Giuliani and Trump had nothing to do with it.  Trump will say Giuliani is some mentally sick toad who wanted to be Trump's friend and for some reason Trump cannot understand because he is so law and order ly and only does good, Giuliani thought all the illegal stuff would impress Trump but Trump had no idea it was happening until now and while he feels sorry for Giuliani since Giuliani used to be a good guy but is now clearly mentally sick he thinks Giuliani should go to jail. 

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36 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

If this impeachment gains traction I suspect Trump will turn on Giuliani and say all Giuliani's Ukraine activity was just Giuliani and Trump had nothing to do with it.  Trump will say Giuliani is some mentally sick toad who wanted to be Trump's friend and for some reason Trump cannot understand because he is so law and order ly and only does good, Giuliani thought all the illegal stuff would impress Trump but Trump had no idea it was happening until now and while he feels sorry for Giuliani since Giuliani used to be a good guy but is now clearly mentally sick he thinks Giuliani should go to jail. 

 

This is why Rudy said he was doing what Pompie told him to do

 

They'll turn on each other 

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12 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

This is why Rudy said he was doing what Pompie told him to do

 

They'll turn on each other 

 

But the Whistle Blower documented that the State Department complained about Giuliani's Ukraine activities. So Giuliani's argument would mean that the Secretary of State was rogue. 

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3 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

 

But the Whistle Blower documented that the State Department complained about Giuliani's Ukraine activities. So Giuliani's argument would mean that the Secretary of State was rogue. 

 

Of course their bullshit makes no sense 

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1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Of course their bullshit makes no sense 

 

 

It could trend as CTF's picture posting did. 

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