begooode Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, oldschool said: Two things are striking to me 1. Trump is smarter than we previously thought. He knew not to direct his cronies with direct statements on what he wanted. It ties back to the Cohen testimony where he stated Trump knows hows to demand for things without saying ala a mob boss 2. the Senate will not crack if Sondlund's testimony doesn't do it. Initial reports show the Senate doesn't care. the Dems should start using that it campaign ads tomorrow. Any contested seat should be open warfare calling for the ouster of GOP senators who are enabling this corrupt President. Striking while the iron is hot, they should start that messaging loud and clear in tonight's debate. They can jab at each other, but should be wary of haymakers to enable the false equivalencers out there -- see both parties are a mess!! something like: Trump and his enabling party are lawless and need to be out of office! help us in restoring our democracy, so we can get back to debating policies, yada yada... Edited November 20, 2019 by begooode thor, and Mythos27 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: This is a campaign issue, Republicans won’t remove him This conspiracy is too big to fail. It involves too many republicans. As Sondland said, everyone was in the loop. Senators would be throwing the entire party under the bus. thor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, ctm said: This conspiracy is too big to fail. It involves too many republicans. As Sondland said, everyone was in the loop. Senators would be throwing the entire party under the bus. The tax returns will be next MadMax, thor, and NFLStudent 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLStudent Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 This is an L for the Dems, but Trump sustained some injuries. There's not enough here to remove him from office. There's no smoking gun at all. Just a lot of suggestions, winks and nods. begooode, and luvyablue256 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 This lady is quickly reaching mute status as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, NFLStudent said: This is an L for the Dems, but Trump sustained some injuries. There's not enough here to remove him from office. There's no smoking gun at all. Just a lot of suggestions, winks and nods. Getting him removed will always be unlikely. He will be impeached though. If they can get evidence on Rudy out of this though, it'd be pretty big b/c that could lead to more. NFLStudent 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, NFLStudent said: This is an L for the Dems, but Trump sustained some injuries. There's not enough here to remove him from office. There's no smoking gun at all. Just a lot of suggestions, winks and nods. Not so fast. We're still quite a ways from the end of this thing. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLStudent Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 What this whole thing did reveal for me at least is how absolutely chaotic and loose this administration is. Crime or no crime, anyone who actual looks at the details of this can be ok with what's going on here. America is better than this. And I would say the same thing if this was Obama, Bush or Clinton. This kind of disorganization and chaos can't accomplish anything great. The economy is on autopilot. But America's has the best economy the world has ever seen so our autopilot is really good as well. ChemEngr79 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I could listen to Eric Swalwell all day. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, NFLStudent said: This is an L for the Dems, but Trump sustained some injuries. There's not enough here to remove him from office. There's no smoking gun at all. Just a lot of suggestions, winks and nods. Its not an L at all; the evidence is damning. The problem is that the GOP hasn't budged nor will they. IsntLifeFunny, reo, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Another food fight will ensue between the news guys and the opinion blowhards working the damage control shift, aka prime time Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said that Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the European Union, "took out the bus and ran over" President Trump and some of his top aides while testifying in the House impeachment inquiry on Wednesday. "I think what Sondland was trying to do here is protect himself more than he is to protect anybody else," Wallace said on Fox News during the network's coverage of the public impeachment hearing. "To a certain degree, he took out the bus and ran over President Trump, Vice President Pence, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Rudy Giuliani, Mick Mulvaney," he added. "He implicates all of them." ChemEngr79, OILERMAN, and NFLStudent 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 A "But Obama" reference. First I've heard today. NFLStudent 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, NFLStudent said: What this whole thing did reveal for me at least is how absolutely chaotic and loose this administration is. Crime or no crime, anyone who actual looks at the details of this can be ok with what's going on here. America is better than this. And I would say the same thing if this was Obama, Bush or Clinton. This kind of disorganization and chaos can't accomplish anything great. A top White House aide charged with impeachment strategy and communication inaccurately said three times on a network morning television show that US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, who testifies publicly Wednesday, is the "ambassador to Ukraine." Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi was pressed on CBS' "This Morning" whether the President knew Sondland well and whether they were in frequent contact. "He was ambassador to the Ukraine, he is ambassador to the Ukraine and the President knows him. The President does not know him very well. He's a short-term ambassador. Of course he knows him," Bondi said. But Sondland has never been ambassador to Ukraine. And he has been confirmed in his post as US ambassador to the European Union since June 2018. In fact, it's his role as European Union ambassador acting in the capacity he did on Ukraine that is partly under scrutiny. Asked again about Sondland's assertion in closed testimony that he could speak to President Donald Trump whenever he wanted, Bondi repeated her mistake a third time. "Well, he clearly had a conversation with the President of the United States, he's the ambassador to Ukraine," Bondi said. NFLStudent 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, begooode said: Another food fight will ensue between the news guys and the opinion blowhards working the damage control shift, aka prime time Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said that Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the European Union, "took out the bus and ran over" President Trump and some of his top aides while testifying in the House impeachment inquiry on Wednesday. "I think what Sondland was trying to do here is protect himself more than he is to protect anybody else," Wallace said on Fox News during the network's coverage of the public impeachment hearing. "To a certain degree, he took out the bus and ran over President Trump, Vice President Pence, Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, Rudy Giuliani, Mick Mulvaney," he added. "He implicates all of them." Somebody had to notify OMB and tell them to hold up on Ukraine's money. Almost certainly Mulvaney. That will be next and he's going to try and refuse to testify. Starkiller, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 Jim, slow down. No one can understand you. On another note, am I the only person who thinks that Jim Jordan looks like Ken Whisenhunt? reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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