oldschool Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, tgo said: The deep state has gone global! MadMax, OILERMAN, Justafan, and 1 other 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MadMax Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, tgo said: This is obviously fake news. Rolltard says Biden is guilty. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, Rolltide said: Let me ask the question again. If it is so obvious that Trump committed high crimes why did Adam Shitt have to misrepresent what Trump actually said in that phone call? The transcript is public it is all over the internet. Why not just use that then? Do mafia Dons go to prison based on somebody else's bullshit version of something they said? No they go to prison based on what they actually said. If a prosecutor was to miss quote a suspect in a trial what would happen to them? Schift was stupid for taking narrative liberty with the transcript and he should be called out for it. It only hurts his credibility but lets get back to what matters. a President using his office for personal or political gain and the subsequent cover up by his confidents. Why did they hide it if they truly felt the line wasn't crossed? I don't expect you answer honestly. Mythos27, Justafan, and pamo9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 The more conservatives dig in on this, the more laughable it becomes. They have egg all over their face but it somehow doesn't matter. Facts don't matter. Only who plays for what team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 15 hours ago, tgo said: Trump is going to further exacerbate his legal and political problems going after the whistleblower and their sources. Then you not only have the crime at hand, but also the cover up and then retaliation against a legally protected whistleblower. As prez, Trump is the lead of the federal court system and absolutely must maintain some semblance of impartiality to legal proceedings and processes. For him to publicly and shamelessly go after a protected whistleblower who has been confirmed to have acted in good faith is a rejection to execute his duties, and potentially creates an unprecedented judicial situation. Often you hear Trump compared to Nixon, but Nixon would never do anything like this as he respected the democratic institutions reinforced by the executive branch that Trump just casts aside in his petty emo rages. The guy is dangerously unstable, amoral and shortsighted -- completely out of his depth in a real leadership role. MadMax, and tgo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Justafan said: The more conservatives dig in on this, the more laughable it becomes. They have egg all over their face but it somehow doesn't matter. Facts don't matter. Only who plays for what team. They have no argument to defend Trump for what he did. They attack Schiff for parodying the “transcript” instead of quoting it verbatim (despite the fact it isn’t the actual word for word call transcript, which is still locked away on a classified system). They attack the whistleblower for not having a 1st hand account even though the accusations have all been shown to be true. They attack the Dems for announcing hearings before the “transcript” was released even though Trump himself had already admitted publicly to the crime. They attack Biden even though it’s unrelated to Trump's crimes and the fact that there was no active investigation into the company his son was on the board of at the time. The GOP only knows how to attack, but they have nothing to work with other than spin. Justafan, T-RAC, MadMax, and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, begooode said: As prez, Trump is the lead of the federal court system and absolutely must maintain some semblance of impartiality to legal proceedings and processes. For him to publicly and shamelessly go after a protected whistleblower who has been confirmed to have acted in good faith is a rejection to execute his duties, and potentially creates an unprecedented judicial situation. Often you hear Trump compared to Nixon, but Nixon would never do anything like this as he respected the democratic institutions reinforced by the executive branch that Trump just casts aside in his petty emo rages. The guy is dangerously unstable, amoral and shortsighted -- completely out of his depth in a real leadership role. Nixon was corrupt, too, but he was way smarter than Trump. Trump is a moron. The only mistake Nixon made was in recording everything. begooode, tgo, and Justafan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Nixon was corrupt, too, but he was way smarter than Trump. Trump is a moron. The only mistake Nixon made was in recording everything. He was at a huge disadvantage to Trump too in terms of support from the media. If Trump had to deal with the media that Nixon had to deal with he would already be out of office. NFLStudent, Starkiller, and MadMax 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Justafan said: He was at a huge disadvantage to Trump too in terms of support from the media. If Trump had to deal with the media that Nixon had to deal with he would already be out of office. sure, there was no right wing propaganda machine then like there is now. Roger Ailes was part of the Nixon admin. He went on to found the very Fox News that today is keeping Trump afloat. Mythos27, begooode, and Justafan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NFLStudent Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, Rolltide said: Let me ask the question again. If it is so obvious that Trump committed high crimes why did Adam Shitt have to misrepresent what Trump actually said in that phone call? The transcript is public it is all over the internet. Why not just use that then? Do mafia Dons go to prison based on somebody else's bullshit version of something they said? No they go to prison based on what they actually said. If a prosecutor was to miss quote a suspect in a trial what would happen to them? Why is the President of the United States on a phone call that he knows is being monitored and potentially recorded, asking the President of another country to uncover dirt on somebody who is in the running to get the job that he currently has? And why do you think that's ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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