Mythos27 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 This was a total team loss. Mariota should be heavily criticized and benched but he wasn't the only problem yesterday. Between the OL failing to protect Mariota or open up holes for Henry and the Jags blanketing us, it was a bleak affair. The penalties were also huge in this game as they took like 2 of our better runs off the board and turned first downs into unmanageable downs All in all this is the worst we've looked in a long time and you gotta hope that getting Nate Davis in there and Lewan back helps stabilize things. I won't even get into how pitiful pressure was from the DL. I hope he really is WAY ahead of schedule and fully healthy because we need Jefferey Simmons in a bad way up front. bosss50, enigma, Justafan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgo Posted September 20, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 I’m kind of at a loss at what to even say, as the pass game and OL really (the whole team really) can’t be evaluated properly until Mariota is benched. TNTitans, Justafan, TeamRamrod, and 5 others 4 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: This was a total team loss. Mariota should be heavily criticized and benched but he wasn't the only problem yesterday. Between the OL failing to protect Mariota or open up holes for Henry and the Jags blanketing us, it was a bleak affair. The penalties were also huge in this game as they took like 2 of our better runs off the board and turned first downs into unmanageable downs All in all this is the worst we've looked in a long time and you gotta hope that getting Nate Davis in there and Lewan back helps stabilize things. I won't even get into how pitiful pressure was from the DL. I hope he really is WAY ahead of schedule and fully healthy because we need Jefferey Simmons in a bad way up front. Yes, penalties, Jackson's mistake , and GM looking legitimately great on certain plays did us in. But last week was totally in Mariota, and that loss makes this one hurt even more Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, oldschool said: I'll watch it later today and record the numbers. I'd be careful assumming it was all coverage. The all-22 could tell a different story. It usually does. Last week’s was brutal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Ross Tucker was on this morning blasting MM for not getting rid of the ball and how Cosell has been right all along He also gave a fair amount of the blame to the OL Alcibiades, Soxcat, and Justafan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cenj Posted September 20, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 I don't know, I thought the protection was good most of the time. He had pockets to step into, room to roll outside, but he kept walking into pressure. Also, if you're going to send 4 guys on routes, you can't expect protection to hold for 4-5 seconds. There was some 1-on-1 losses by the OL, but that happens. It wasn't pervasive. I saw space to throw and guys running open. Pull the trigger and get some first downs and the D won't be able to tee off every damn play. VanCityTitan, rns90, C_Train, and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, abc2330 said: Yes, penalties, Jackson's mistake , and GM looking legitimately great on certain plays did us in. But last week was totally in Mariota, and that loss makes this one hurt even more I agree completely. Nights like last night where the wheels come off and you just shoot yourself in the foot/get overmatched will happen in the NFL which is why it is so crucial to win games where you have every chance to win like last week. Now we're 1-2 and dead last in the division. Edited September 20, 2019 by Mythos27 TerryBoats 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 No doubt that the OL has some issues, but the GM and coaching staff can't be happy that they are matching records of the early stages of an expansion team with an infamously shell-shocked QB. Not to mention every addition to the passing game that we make seem to make it even less effective. I wish that Mariota did PEDs instead of eating donuts so that we that we could make an easier transition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TeamRamrod Posted September 20, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Mythos27, rns90, Titans_Win_Again, and 6 others 2 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 The line actually graded out well on PFF with the exception of Douglas, who was awful. Saffold more or less said that they aren't the issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Saffold and Conklin gotta be better. I know it doesn't help that the defense knows they gotta chip. We're basically running 7-9 blockers on every play, which means all they gotta do is beat their guys and the cards fall down. Zero respect for the pass beyond 5-10 yards. bosss50 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, cenj said: I don't know, I thought the protection was good most of the time. He had pockets to step into, room to roll outside, but he kept walking into pressure. Also, if you're going to send 4 guys on routes, you can't expect protection to hold for 4-5 seconds. There was some 1-on-1 losses by the OL, but that happens. It wasn't pervasive. I saw space to throw and guys running open. Pull the trigger and get some first downs and the D won't be able to tee off every damn play. It was pervasive for Jamil Douglas. And Conklin got beat a few times too but they weren’t helping him out at all. The biggest issue to me is that the Jags can just blitz to their hearts’ content with a big lead and Mariota can’t make them pay for it. The Jaguars are not a team you want to be playing from behind against. Alcibiades, and bosss50 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRT Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) OL scheme or/and OL player development to me are really in question. Can’t see where Kevin Carter has elevated any of his players. Health and stupid penalties aside, no young player has emerged in the last two off seasons. Vrabel needs to look at his coaching house and upgrade this offseason imo. And for the record I don’t proclaim to know anything but the Gs regressed from 17 to 18 and were let go in 19 and the plan was a high priced FA over 30 (which is an upgrade) and a 3rd rd pick who got injured. I guess we will see what happens the second quarter of the season. Edited September 20, 2019 by FRT bosss50, and TitanDuckFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, tgo said: It was pervasive for Jamil Douglas. And Conklin got beat a few times too but they weren’t helping him out at all. The biggest issue to me is that the Jags can just blitz to their hearts’ content with a big lead and Mariota can’t make them pay for it. The Jaguars are not a team you want to be playing from behind against. There were issues with the OL a good QB works around, MM turned it into a 9 sack dumpster fire C_Train, Justafan, and TitanTez 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, OILERMAN said: There were issues with the OL a good QB works around, MM turned it into a 9 sack dumpster fire I seem to remember something similar happening before pretty recently as well! With a totally different OC and everything! Justafan, and bosss50 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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