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Cosell on Victory Over Browns

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This discussion reminds me of a similar one with Rockets center Moses Malone, when he led the NBA in offensive rebounding.. he jokingly thanked his teammates for throwing up so many brick shots.. lol

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On 9/13/2019 at 9:50 AM, big2033 said:

 

OK ... but do you agree with Cosell's assessment of why the offense was called the way it was?

 

I agree completely.

 

But realize this:   Cosell's comments here weren't directed at Mariota or even about him.    Everyone is obviously spinning it that way because  Mariota was mentioned....but those comments were Cosell's response to a question that specifically asked what the Titans did to help out Dennis Kelly and Jamil Douglas.   (Which was the whole point I was trying to make in the first place.     The gameplan wasn't only about Mariota's limitations....it was also about the depleted O-line.)

 

I completely agree that Mariota is a limited passer;  he's at his best on designed plays or plays with specific reads.  When asked to drop back and scan the field with multiple reads, he becomes inconsistent and far less effective.    Not that he's incapable....but it's very hit-and-miss.

 

Mariota has this year to show significant improvement in that area....but I doubt we'll see many of those plays in the gameplan until Arthur Smith has full confidence in the O-line.   Until Lewan returns, I'm anticipating the gameplans will be similar to what we saw in week one.

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5 hours ago, scine09 said:

My post was not about 4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drive.  It's about coming back from multi-score deficits.  4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drives sometimes have to be taken with a grain of salt.  For example, Mariota got credit for a game-winning drive in a 12-9 OT win against the Browns.  Also, a guy gets credit for a 4th quarter comeback if his team scores literally the 1st play of the 4th quarter versus the last play of the 3rd.  I'm not saying that happened but just putting the 4th quarter comebacks/game-winning drives without context is a hollow stat.

 

How many times in Tannehill/Carr/Dalton's careers have they brought their teams back from multi-score to either take the lead or win?  Mariota's done it 14 times (including playoffs).  I would sincerely doubt that those players have done it 14 times.  I can certainly look it up.

 

 

You should do it

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13 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

 

You should do it

I actually meant to do it this offseason, not just those QBs, but all QBs since 2015 just to see where Mariota ranked.  Maybe I'll get to it.

 

I think that it's also important to figure out the % of times that QBs were unable to make up 2-score deficits to at least tie games.  Because obviously you have QBs like Brady who likely haven't even faced 15 2-score plus deficits since 2015, let alone made them up.  So obviously his numbers are going to be lower.  But that's due to opportunity.

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