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YES!!!!! He's also my fantasy kicker!!!!!

Married for 6 years...Damn right I do!

No way Watson finishes the year playing this reckless.

11 hours ago, DecepticonShawn said:

Drew Brees is a Super Bowl champion, MVP, perennial pro bowler and future hall of famer. He also has the most passing yards in nfl history and 5 5000 yard passing seasons. Stop comparing him to fucking Mariota who hasn't done anything near that in this league.

So what?  Just b/c he's all that he can't be criticized?  Get the fuck out with those reasoning. 

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Laremy Tunsil isn’t even worth one first-round pick, let alone two firsts and a second

 

Based off the king’s ransom the Dolphins got from the Texans for Tunsil, you’d think he’d make this offensive line better at every single position. Obviously, he can’t, but Tunsil can provide a marginal improvement by remaining stout on the left end. In his Houston debut, he was far from that. Tunsil finished the game with a 62.0 pass-block grade and surrendered two sacks along with two hurries. His four total pressures allowed last night were the second most Tunsil has ever allowed in a game in his career. Not to mention, it was also just the second time in Tunsil’s career he allowed two sacks in a game. 

The highest pressure rate allowed on Houston’s offensive line last night belonged to Tunsil at 10.5%, which ranked 25th among 29 left tackles to play at least 20 pass-block snaps in Week 1. The rest of the Texans’ offensive line showed to be same old, same old with only center Nick Martin ranking in the top half of his position in pass-blocking grade (13th). As said, the addition of Tunsil provides an insignificant improvement when the rest of your offensive line is as bad as it is. Moreover, Tunsil also can’t change the fact that his quarterback, Deshaun Watson, allows more pressure to himself than any other quarterback (had three sacks attributed to him last night).

 

The Clowney-less pass-rush was eerily quiet, even with J.J. Watt

 

In their first game without Jadeveon Clowney, Houston’s pass-rush was ineffective. Houston generated pressure just 22.7% of the time, ranking 187th among the 209 regular season games they have played in since 2006.

Houston has one of the top edge defenders in the game in J.J Watt, but even he couldn’t find an ounce of success against the Saints. Watt’s 55.1 pass-rush grade was one of the worst games of his career, 95th of his 99 games with significant snaps played to be exact.  And his play in the second half wasnn’t any better, as he earned just a 5.3% win rate and zero percent pressure rate in the final 30 minutes of the game.

On the other end, Clowney’s replacement Whitney Mercilus wasn’t much better with a 60.2 pass-rush grade. He also generated pressure at a lowly 8.8% rate. Clowney wasn’t the heart and soul of this defense and they went up against the best tackle duo in the league in Ryan Ramczyk and Terron Armstead, but Watt and Mercilus have a lot on their shoulders in the coming weeks with having to prove that they don’t need Clowney to be a successful pass-rush.

 

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-week-1-monday-night-football-key-takeaways

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1 hour ago, ctm said:

Laremy Tunsil isn’t even worth one first-round pick, let alone two firsts and a second

 

Based off the king’s ransom the Dolphins got from the Texans for Tunsil, you’d think he’d make this offensive line better at every single position. Obviously, he can’t, but Tunsil can provide a marginal improvement by remaining stout on the left end. In his Houston debut, he was far from that. Tunsil finished the game with a 62.0 pass-block grade and surrendered two sacks along with two hurries. His four total pressures allowed last night were the second most Tunsil has ever allowed in a game in his career. Not to mention, it was also just the second time in Tunsil’s career he allowed two sacks in a game. 

The highest pressure rate allowed on Houston’s offensive line last night belonged to Tunsil at 10.5%, which ranked 25th among 29 left tackles to play at least 20 pass-block snaps in Week 1. The rest of the Texans’ offensive line showed to be same old, same old with only center Nick Martin ranking in the top half of his position in pass-blocking grade (13th). As said, the addition of Tunsil provides an insignificant improvement when the rest of your offensive line is as bad as it is. Moreover, Tunsil also can’t change the fact that his quarterback, Deshaun Watson, allows more pressure to himself than any other quarterback (had three sacks attributed to him last night).

 

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-week-1-monday-night-football-key-takeaways

 

It's almost as if he joined the team half a week ago and has a QB that holds onto the ball too long and has a historically high sack rate.

 

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18 hours ago, No1TitansFan said:

 

 Murray did ball out at the end of that game, but he had 5 balls batted down; he's going to have to learn to adjust, he also got ran down several times trying to run out of the pocket.

Wonder how Brees did early in his career with batted balls. He’s mastered the art since San Diego but I wonder if he had that issue early on. 

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2 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

 

I'm not surprise at this move. He got that contract playing with Bouye and Ramsey on the outside in Jacksonville. He was exposed and injured last year and the Saints torched him last night.

 

Maybe he will return to the Jags.

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The Texans are so stupid on that final play. The Saints actually used too much time and only had 6 secs. That was the perfect time for the Texans to press the WRs and actually blitz Brees.

 

You want to try and score on the final play have at it

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23 hours ago, DecepticonShawn said:

Drew Brees is a Super Bowl champion, MVP, perennial pro bowler and future hall of famer. He also has the most passing yards in nfl history and 5 5000 yard passing seasons. Stop comparing him to fucking Mariota who hasn't done anything near that in this league.

you cant have it both ways. 

you cant say... "why cant he throw/move/do this like rodgers/brees/brady/mahommes"

and then also say "you cant compare him to rodgers/brees/brady/mahommes" on the plays they do bad. 

it doesnt work that way. 

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12 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

The Texans are so stupid on that final play. The Saints actually used too much time and only had 6 secs. That was the perfect time for the Texans to press the WRs and actually blitz Brees.

 

You want to try and score on the final play have at it

 

I really think the Texans thought the Saints didn't have a TO as everyone expected them to take it on the completion to the 50. 

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On 9/11/2019 at 5:44 AM, titanruss said:

you cant have it both ways. 

you cant say... "why cant he throw/move/do this like rodgers/brees/brady/mahommes"

and then also say "you cant compare him to rodgers/brees/brady/mahommes" on the plays they do bad. 

it doesnt work that way. 

Drew Brees has earned the right to throw a bad pass here or there. Hes 40. He won a super bowl for his franchise a decade ago and is still an elite qb in this league. Mariota isnt.

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