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Rewatched the game (OFF only) this morning

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15 minutes ago, Downtown said:

Looking back at the game and specifically the offense, we should really be talking about the 43 yards of total offense generated when Lewis is in the game (that includes the 15+ scamper Mariota had on a broken play) versus the 296 yards total offense generated when Henry was in the game. 

 

We lived off of play action. Both AJ Brown pass plays were play-action to Henry. Both Walker TDs were play-action to Henry. Screen TD to Henry, etc. 

 

Putting Lewis in the game grinded our offense to a halt with no respect given to the play-action pass. 

 

 

 

 

 

Lewis looks like a boy amongst men. I can’t believe how bad he’s been. 

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1 hour ago, oldschool said:

The angle is off. look at it a few frames before that. I'm curious what the all-22 shows. 

He cant step into that throw or he gets kneecapped and went back and looked.

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1 hour ago, oldschool said:

Another observation. Smith moving the pocket with the sprint right/left calls and the bootleg were great additions to the game plan. I don't recall seeing much of that last year.

I never understood why Lafleur wouldn't do this. It seemed obvious.

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As a whole, they finished strong and by finished I mean, second quarter and on. 

 

Mariota was inconsistent and missed some pretty easy throws. 

 

Obviously the consistency issue is still a problem but Mariota didn't do anything to lose the game and that's the most important part. 

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4 minutes ago, cenj said:

I never understood why Lafleur wouldn't do this. It seemed obvious.

Because MLF is overrated and just stole from McVay. He was scared to go off script of what got hum hired in the first place. 

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23 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

The 3rd and 11? It hit Davis in the hands. It wasn’t a great pass, but it wasn’t a bad pass. I think Davis May have heard footsteps and short armed it, but I’d have to rewatch. That isn’t an easy throw. 

It was from a completely clean pocket.  This is a 6'3 WR with long arms who had to jump and extend completely and could barely get his fingertips on it.  If there was a field level shot, it would show how high it really was

 

The whole, "hE was the #5 pick!  He should be able to catch uncatchable passes!"  Thing is getting old

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9 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

It was from a completely clean pocket.  This is a 6'3 WR with long arms who had to jump and extend completely and could barely get his fingertips on it.  If there was a field level shot, it would show how high it really was

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Okay. Notice how little Davis’ feet are off the ground. He had a chance at that ball. It wasn’t a great pass, but it wasn’t a bad pass. 

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5 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Okay. Notice how little Davis’ feet are off the ground. He had a chance at that ball. It wasn’t a great pass, but it wasn’t a bad pass. 

I rewatched the play.  I'd argue it was a bad pass since the pocket was clean there was minimal pressure.

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11 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Okay. Notice how little Davis’ feet are off the ground. He had a chance at that ball. It wasn’t a great pass, but it wasn’t a bad pass. 

How could you possibly tell from that angle?  He looks like he's several feet in the air.  And the pass barely grazed his fingers.  It was a bad throw.  This isn't as ridiculous as that Pittsburgh debate, but it's a bad throw

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9 minutes ago, rns90 said:

I rewatched the play.  I'd argue it was a bad pass since the pocket was clean there was minimal pressure.

Eh, it hit his receiver in the hands in between coverage. I’m okay if it’s called a bad pass, but it wasn’t some terrible miss. Davis had a shot at that ball. 

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23 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Okay. Notice how little Davis’ feet are off the ground. He had a chance at that ball. It wasn’t a great pass, but it wasn’t a bad pass. 

The way I like to settle these arguments is:

 

How many of these, "not a great pass but the receiver should make a play" conversations are we gonna have on minimal targets?

 

We don't throw it a lot, the receiver barely has a chance to get his hands warm. So in situations where he's open, how about he get a high percentage of accurate tight-window throws with the odd wayward pass that he has to make a play on thrown in?

 

Let the guy get a rhythm.

 

This is how a guy like Philip Dorsett is absolute shit on one team and then catches two TDs on Sunday Night Football on another. I'm not saying he's all-pro but the difference when you have a QB that regularly hits you in stride speaks volumes.

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57 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

The 3rd and 11? It hit Davis in the hands. It wasn’t a great pass, but it wasn’t a bad pass. I think Davis May have heard footsteps and short armed it, but I’d have to rewatch. That isn’t an easy throw. 

It looks like he just miss-timed his jump.

Not by a lot, but just enough.

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6 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Eh, it hit his receiver in the hands in between coverage. I’m okay if it’s called a bad pass, but it wasn’t some terrible miss. Davis had a shot at that ball. 

You have incredibly low standards if you consider that hitting a receiver in the hands.  Davis attempted to make a play on a erratic high throw.  That's the only reason his hands were anywhere close to it

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Ex-player college told me one time that the direct overhead catch was waaay harder then in looks because of full arm extension through the shoulder pads and squeezing the ball directly over your head with nothing else to stop the ball momentum.  I dunno, esp with the gloves these guys wear these days, but I look for it now.

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