OILERMAN Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Nothing will get done IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Former_Fan said: This is not about the NRA. The fuck it isn’t... 7 hours ago, Former_Fan said: This is about protecting the Constitution and the Second Amendment. Law abiding gun owners should not be penalized for the actions of sick criminals. Gun control will do nothing but embolden these criminals and make the general population defenseless. And don't come at me with that assault weapons bullshit. Most any gun can inflict mass casualties. I'm still waiting for someone to address the root cause of these killings, instead of the tools used. Continue to make excuses to fulfill your agenda. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own an AR15 or any similar weapon. Let everyone own an approved handgun, shotgun, or hunting rifle. Everything else should be kept out of the hands of the public. pamo9, TitanDuckFan, and Former_Fan 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, oldschool said: Nice NRA talking point. Do you have any others? Thoughts and prayers. It's too soon to talk about it. Downtown 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Nothing will get done Not as long as McConnell and republicans control the senate and Trump keeps fertilizing the soil with his racial hatred of minorities and allowing these right wing terrorists to grow and thrive. Starkiller, oldschool, Omar, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLStudent Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rolltide said: We have had Muslim shootings and attacks on people genius. So show us the posts where somebody wanted a Muslim ban. Rolltide 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLStudent Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rolltide said: We have had Muslim shootings and attacks on people genius. So show us the posts where somebody wanted a Muslim ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Starkiller Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Rolltide said: We have had Muslim shootings and attacks on people genius. So show us the posts where somebody wanted a Muslim ban. Christian terrorists are clearly a way bigger threat to this country than Muslims... Edited August 4, 2019 by Starkiller Btowner, Number9, IsntLifeFunny, and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 5 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: As soon as he said a handgun was just as effective it was obvious he has no idea what he’s talking about. Please explain. I'm guessing you have never shot either. The shooting yesterday could have been carried out with the same results, it just would have taken a few quick re-loads. As far as SWAT teams, you guys do realize they not only carry rifles, but handguns and shotguns as well. The rifles are used mainly to allow for safe distances to apprehend suspects. But they will use any weapon at their disposal depending on the circumstances. oldschool, and GOAT9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, oldschool said: Nice NRA talking point. Do you have any others? This is the response I expected from many of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Former_Fan said: This is the response I expected from many of you. You are parroting the main talking points even if you dont realize it. I'm not a gun ban advocate but to act like access to AR15 style weapons is t a huge contributor to the mass shootings we see all the time now is naive. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Trump cuts funds to fight anti-right wing violence 08/14/17 06:35 PM EDT The Trump administration’s decision to cut federal funding for groups fighting right-wing violence has come under new scrutiny following the president's controversial response to violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend. “It’s a disgrace that Trump is cutting out Countering Violent Extremism funds for white supremacists and neo-Nazis. We know that the domestic terror threat from them is as great as it from Islamic radicals. It’s a very serious situation,” said Heidi Beirich, director of the intelligence project for the Southern Poverty Law Center. Even before Charlottesville, critics were slamming the administration for making changes to a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) grant program that is aimed at supporting community efforts to stop violent extremism and recruitment efforts. In the final days of the Obama administration, $10 million in Countering Violent Extremism funding was awarded to 31 different applicants, including several groups dedicated to combating white supremacy and de-radicalizing neo-Nazis. When the administration finally released its revised list of grant recipients this summer, funding was pulled for a total of 12 grant recipients — including $400,000 for a group called Life After Hate, which was one of the only original grant recipients focused on fighting far-right extremism. The nonprofit organization, which was touted by then-DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson in a press release, is one of the only programs in the U.S. devoted to helping people leave neo-Nazi and other white supremacy groups. The Trump administration also cancelled a $900,000 grant that would have gone toward the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill to counter jihadist and white supremacist recruiting. https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/346552-trump-cut-funds-to-fight-anti-right-wing-violence Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Former_Fan said: You are delusional. Take away the guns. Your agenda is clear. The bigger picture should be addressing the mentally ill who want to kill even a single human being in the first place. Maybe you would prefer mass bombings? There have been evil people since the beginning of time, and anyone sick enough that desires to end a human life. Whether it is 1 or 100, will use any tool they can to do so. This is simple common sense.. Because we have so many mass bombings. Yes the government should absolutely take away the means of citizens to acquire various guns. It sure is easier to kill with a gun than it is to make a bomb. You are a fucking idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 FBI's Wray says most domestic terrorism arrests this year involve white supremacy 07/23/19 FBI Director Christopher Wray said Tuesday that the agency has made about 100 domestic terrorism-related arrests since October, and the majority were tied to white supremacy. ”I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence, but it does include other things as well,” Wray said at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, referring to cases in fiscal 2019, which began Oct. 1. Wray has previously said that white supremacy poses a significant and “pervasive” threat to the United States. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454338-fbis-wray-says-majority-of-domestic-terrorism-arrests-this-year Wray is a republican, appointed by Trump. Btowner, OILERMAN, and Number9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, Former_Fan said: Please explain. I'm guessing you have never shot either. The shooting yesterday could have been carried out with the same results, it just would have taken a few quick re-loads. As far as SWAT teams, you guys do realize they not only carry rifles, but handguns and shotguns as well. The rifles are used mainly to allow for safe distances to apprehend suspects. But they will use any weapon at their disposal depending on the circumstances. Its take far more skill to use a handgun in the manner you are referring to. To act otherwise is completely disingenuous. IsntLifeFunny, and GOAT9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, TitansFan777 said: Because we have so many mass bombings. Yes the government should absolutely take away the means of citizens to acquire various guns. It sure is easier to kill with a gun than it is to make a bomb. You are a fucking idiot. You could ban them tomorrow, even try to confiscate them, which would never be successful, and there would be just as many, if not more of these incidents. Criminals certainly aren't giving up their guns. But the mentally ill that desire to kill people are going use any tool necessary to inflict maximum damage. No bombings aren't super common in the US, but they absolutely have happened. Yes, it is definitely easier to use a gun than build a bomb, but those who want to kill others are going to continue to do so because nobody wants to acknowledge the deranged people doing this, they just want to blame the tool used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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