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OILERMAN   
2 hours ago, StephenIsLegend said:

I’m of the idea that a switch did turn on for Henry at some point. But there’s a ton of truth in that Lewis was ineffective a lot of times and was still

being force-fed the ball while being ineffective.

Of course the switch turned on for Henry. The evidence is overwhelming and Henry said it himself. It's laughable for Mythos to deny that. 

 

And you're right, they did keep Lewis on the field despite him being ineffective running the ball. There is no doubt that was done because of the threat Lewis provided as both a runner and pass catcher. Defenses know when Henry is on the field he's running the ball. Unless you believe the coaches are simply stupid, I don't. 

 

The question is can they implement Henry into the passing game enough to make defenses have to guess more or will they simply run the hell out of the ball anyway with Henry like they did the last month last season. 

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GOAT9   
On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 12:30 PM, abc2330 said:

They were 21st in rushing the year prior to his arrival, 3rd in his rookie year.  He transformed that offense.  

They had the 8th fewest pass attempts the year before Wilson. But yes Wilson has been huge for their offense. 

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GOAT9   
On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 1:04 PM, big2033 said:

Teams aren't just going to feed someone a ball because they look like a monster. THey have to play like one.

 

Watch Henry's progression through the year. He got more carries when he made something happen with the few he had. That's how it's works.

 

The team wanted him to take the job and earn it not have it handed to him. He doesn't do some other things as well as say Dion Lewis for them to take that chance.

 

So he needed to show he could be fed with the little carries he had. He finally did that after the bye.

Henry had already been running with few chances. Dion Lewis sucks. He sucked the entire year and never did anything to deserve the ball over Henry. He had one year on a different team with several years of doing nothing. 

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Mythos27   
1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

Of course the switch turned on for Henry. The evidence is overwhelming and Henry said it himself. It's laughable for Mythos to deny that. 

 

And you're right, they did keep Lewis on the field despite him being ineffective running the ball. There is no doubt that was done because of the threat Lewis provided as both a runner and pass catcher. Defenses know when Henry is on the field he's running the ball. Unless you believe the coaches are simply stupid, I don't. 

 

The question is can they implement Henry into the passing game enough to make defenses have to guess more or will they simply run the hell out of the ball anyway with Henry like they did the last month last season. 

The only players that "flip a switch" are the assholes who weren't producing because they weren't giving full effort to begin with. That wasn't the case with Henry, and there is zero indication that it was. If there was a switch to flip it would've happened multiple times before.

 

You can flip whatever switch you want but if there is no electricity ain't shit happening and the OL showing up was clearly the juice we needed.

 

It's sad to see a grown ass man believing in fairy tales like a pep talk is all an NFL RB needs to turn his entire career around. The dude has full time coaches who dissect his game and motivate him on a daily basis but no, it was a 20 minute conversation with Eddie that did it. If that's the case just fire the RB coaches and hire Eddie. He's the difference maker right? It's absurd.

 

You probably think half-time speeches make the difference between winning and losing too...

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Mythos27   
35 minutes ago, GOAT9 said:

Henry had already been running with few chances. Dion Lewis sucks. He sucked the entire year and never did anything to deserve the ball over Henry. He had one year on a different team with several years of doing nothing. 

It's hard to get positive yards when you're getting stoned in the backfield every time you touch the ball. Dion learned that the hard way. Also Mariota not being good enough to make teams respect the pass compounded the problems. Few RBs would've thrived here in the beginning. This ain't New England where anyone with a pulse can run for 5 yards a carry because the defense forgets he's even on the field because they're so scared of Brady.

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2 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Of course the switch turned on for Henry. The evidence is overwhelming and Henry said it himself. It's laughable for Mythos to deny that. 

 

And you're right, they did keep Lewis on the field despite him being ineffective running the ball. There is no doubt that was done because of the threat Lewis provided as both a runner and pass catcher. Defenses know when Henry is on the field he's running the ball. Unless you believe the coaches are simply stupid, I don't. 

 

The question is can they implement Henry into the passing game enough to make defenses have to guess more or will they simply run the hell out of the ball anyway with Henry like they did the last month last season. 

I think they can implement him in the passing game.  He isn't as good as a receiving threat as Lewis, but it's not like he is some scrub out there.  I also made note how stupid it was of a decision to keep trotting Lewis out there instead of Henry.  I don't think the coaches are stupid, but like everyone else in the world, they make mistakes and have mental gaffs.  I don't think it's a black-and-white scenario.  

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GOAT9   
1 hour ago, Mythos27 said:

It's hard to get positive yards when you're getting stoned in the backfield every time you touch the ball. Dion learned that the hard way. Also Mariota not being good enough to make teams respect the pass compounded the problems. Few RBs would've thrived here in the beginning. This ain't New England where anyone with a pulse can run for 5 yards a carry because the defense forgets he's even on the field because they're so scared of Brady.

Yeah but he only did something in NE that 1 year. His time in Philly is forgettable and his other years in NE were injury ridden and mediocre. Henry has constantly flashed his potential. He had 4-5 game stretch in 17 and that really big one in playoffs vs KC. I said at the time after the season that we should have let Henry take over as the lead back and let Murray finish his contract as a change of pace/insurance policy. Lewis didn't do anything even after the line improved. If they hadn't fed Henry the way they did those last 5 games he would have ended up with fewer carries than Lewis. It was a mistake. 

 

The running game being good early in the season is going to be big for keeping Mariota healthy and the team being successful. It would allow for the passing game to gradually open as the season progresses and it is the best chance for Mariota to stay healthy. 

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OILERMAN   
2 hours ago, StephenIsLegend said:

  I don't think the coaches are stupid, but like everyone else in the world, they make mistakes and have mental gaffs.  I don't think it's a black-and-white scenario.  

Mularkey played a washed up Murray and Vrabel played an ineffective Lewis in the base sets, they both didn't make "gaffs". There is a reason neither staff wanted Henry on run/pass downs. 

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13 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Mularkey played a washed up Murray and Vrabel played an ineffective Lewis in the base sets, they both didn't make "gaffs". There is a reason neither staff wanted Henry on run/pass downs. 

Think we will see Henry used a bit more on screens this year, has been reports during the offseason they have been having Henry catch plenty of screen passes during OTA's/Minicamp.

 

Not a bad idea to try and free up Henry in some space on the outside, he can be deadly if he gets going into top gear.

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OILERMAN   
5 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

Think we will see Henry used a bit more on screens this year, has been reports during the offseason they have been having Henry catch plenty of screen passes during OTA's/Minicamp.

 

Not a bad idea to try and free up Henry in some space on the outside, he can be deadly if he gets going into top gear.

By the reports of the offense being built around him you have to figure he'll be used more in the passing game 

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7 hours ago, oldschool said:

Do yourself a favor and never use Fouts to try to prove a point.

I used to have a big C-band satellite dish and would get the raw feed of MNF where you could hear the booth during commercials. It wasn't Madden who was winning all the Emmys who was making all those astute observations, he was getting them spoon fed to him by the sideline reporters, Fouts and Swann. Guarantee he's watched a lot more film than you and made a lot more money at it. They all dumb it down to a large extent.

 

 

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Mythos27   
1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

Mularkey played a washed up Murray and Vrabel played an ineffective Lewis in the base sets, they both didn't make "gaffs". There is a reason neither staff wanted Henry on run/pass downs. 

They both wised up and fed the right guy in the end. All is forgiven. Sounds like Vrabel isn't going to make the same mistake twice. 

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japan   
On 7/20/2019 at 1:57 PM, Mythos27 said:

I'm asking if you still believe that today. That he can only be good in the 4th?

At that point in the season he seemed to only be effective in the 4th. They had him on the trading block!

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japan   
53 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

By the reports of the offense being built around him you have to figure he'll be used more in the passing game 

God help us

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33 minutes ago, No1TitansFan said:

I used to have a big C-band satellite dish and would get the raw feed of MNF where you could hear the booth during commercials. It wasn't Madden who was winning all the Emmys who was making all those astute observations, he was getting them spoon fed to him by the sideline reporters, Fouts and Swann. Guarantee he's watched a lot more film than you and made a lot more money at it. They all dumb it down to a large extent.

 

 

Lol okay. Half the shit he says is useless and not grounded in anything current. Hes a classic example of a former player who doesnt do any prep. Trent Greene is another one.

 

If we've learned anything from former players turned analyst over the past 20 years it's that alot of them dont have a clue. Irvin anyone?

 

 

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