OILERMAN Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/behind-the-panic-in-white-christian-america/id1081584611?i=1000443306761 About seven in 10 American seniors are white Christians. Among young adults, fewer than three in 10 are. During the span of the Obama administration, America went from a majority white Christian nation to one where white Christians are a minority. That’s an earthquake, and we’re living in the aftershocks.This is a story that Robert Jones, the head of the Public Religion Research Institute, tells in his book The End of White Christian America. Much of Donald Trump’s support is driven by a sense of religious loss, not just racial or national loss. Many of the debates playing out on the American right — particularly the Sohrab Ahmari-David French fight — reflect the belief that these are end times for a certain strain of American Christians, unless emergency measures are undertaken.This is not, to put it lightly, a perspective that’s treated sympathetically on the left. What could carry more privilege than being a white Christian? But that’s why, if you want to understand American politics right now, it’s important to try to see the other side of this one. I’m going to be exploring this more on the show in the weeks to come, but I wanted to start with Jones, who knows the data here better than anyone. This is part of the deep context of American politics right now. Seeing it clearly makes a lot of our fights more legible.If you liked this episode, you may also like: “David French on the Great, White Culture War” and Jennifer Richeson on “The most important idea for understanding politics in 2018.”Book recommendations:Mississippi Praying: Southern White Evangelicals and the Civil Rights Movement by Carolyn Renée DupontOur Towns: A 100,000-Mile Journey into the Heart of America by James Fallows and Deborah FallowsOut of Many Faiths: Religious Diversity and the American Promiseby Eboo Patel titansfb, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted July 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 White Christians are a shrinking portion of the country but they vote at a higher rate than anyone. It's how you get a minority portion of the country winning national elections. In 2011 White Christians polled said it was important for political leaders to be moral at 70%. In 2016 30%......lol titansfb, ChesterCopperpot1, and CreepingDeath 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ctm Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I'm not sure what the most important variable is. It seems to me that this is an attempt by white men to avoid sharing power with women and people of color. If you look at the makeup of republican office holders, it's predominately white men. Bink, oldschool, Omar, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Been saying it for years. 2016 was white rural Christian America's last gasp. All you have to do is read the drivel from soxcat and little earl to understand how scared they are at the change that is in play right now. @ctm you nailed it. titansfb, Mythos27, pamo9, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Bernie Sanders is the only democratic candidate who is an avowed socialist. In yesterday's CNN poll he was at 14%. The truth is that capitalism is failing middle America. It needs reforming to help the vast majority, rather than the few. Everyone paying their fair share is a big difference than socialism. Edited July 2, 2019 by ctm Starkiller, pamo9, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Wow. Really. I'm impressed by your rebuttal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, Soxcat said: The change? Socialism? You ant to make the USA into Venezuela and you tards are blaming white Christian Americans for resisting it? Never go full soxcat... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I wonder what % of Trump supporters are White, Christian Americans. It has to be a high % I'd think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, ctm said: Bernie Sanders is the only democratic candidate who is an avowed socialist. In yesterday's CNN poll he was at 14%. The truth is that capitalism is failing middle America. It needs reforming to help the vast majority, rather than the few. Everyone paying their fair share is a big difference than socialism. People seem to totally gloss over just how bad things are becoming for people in this country. Wages for half the country have been pretty much stagnant for 4 decades but their basic expenses have risen dramatically over that time. Things are going to come to a head sooner or later. Number9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Soxcat said: 70% of Dems polled said it is important for their candidates to be socialist tards. That display in the debates was epic. Epic stupidity. 2 hours ago, Soxcat said: The change? Socialism? You ant to make the USA into Venezuela and you tards are blaming white Christian Americans for resisting it? 2 hours ago, Soxcat said: Wow. Really. I feel much better now. you should look at your responses and compare the wording, demeanor, and attitude to everyone else's... it's blatantly obvious you are scared. open up. its not scary. titansfb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Why reason with them. All they have is fear and that will not change, no matter how hard you try to change their opinions. Fear will override anything. Just let them continue to die off and/or continue becoming a smaller and smaller piece of the pie. Edited July 2, 2019 by TitansFan777 OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, TitansFan777 said: Why reason with them. They vote... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rolltide said: People have no understanding of political socialization. The 40 or 50 somethings that are the children of those seniors will be voting almost the same exact way. These elderly white people you libtards hate so much don't have 50 black kids. Their kids are also white and most likely Christian but here is the real kicker. They are also patriotic and love this country. Why would they vote for the Colin Kaepernick party? I'm dead serious. average white people who are not wealthy and do not live on the coasts have less and less reason to want to vote democrat. Even the language they speak is ridiculed. The flag is some racist symbol to the libtards. All you have to do is shown someone just a few of your posts on here, throwing out “libtard” left and right, and most would probably assume vote the opposite of you. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, StephenIsLegend said: All you have to do is shown someone just a few of your posts on here, throwing out “libtard” left and right, and most would probably assume vote the opposite of you. Dammit. Please dont quote this racist sack of shit. titansfb, Rogue, StephenIsLegend, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, oldschool said: Dammit. Please dont quote this racist sack of shit. What’s amazing is how my opinions of some of these shitheads was confirmed by coming to the politics forum. Its a big yikes. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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