BudsOilers Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, titanruss said: Not true. It was intended for him to be but Davis was not even the largest WR worry of opposing Defenses... yet. Davis had 1 game against the Pats the year before. Rishard's 2 season before last year were on par or significantly better than that Davis last season. Now before you and tweedledum go do some retarded shit... I'm not saying (nor have i indicated anywhere that) Matthews is better than Davis is right now. Matthews was also recovering from injury. Do you actually watch the games? Davis was the #1 heading into camp and throughout the entire season. Matthews was already losing targets because of this and snaps to Sharpe too. Some of why he quit. You want to paint that Matthews was some massive loss. It’s overstated because of your Mariota love. Justafan, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, BudAdams said: Do I actually watch the games? Davis was wanted by the staff to be the #1 heading into camp and throughout the entire season even though he had done nothing and was thought a bust by myself and many of tards here. Matthews was already losing targets because of this and his injury. Some of which along with a giant prima donna complex is why he quit. I want to paint that Matthews wasn't some massive loss. It’s overstated because of my Mariota love. hate My agenda clouds my thinking on this issue and has since I decided I wanted Mariota gone before we even drafted him. I apologize to the board for not being able to differentiate. Its ok Bud! You're forgiven. No1TitansFan, TK43, and Huston 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 LOL Rishard Matthews being the problem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: LOL Rishard Matthews being the problem! So you think we were a better team without Matthews. Noted. Weird since you said he was a number 1 wr a few times that you don’t think his loss was a big deal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, titanruss said: So you think we were a better team without Matthews. Noted. His loss is not the reason Mariota is producing like a mediocre rookie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, OILERMAN said: His loss is not the reason Mariota is producing like a mediocre rookie That wasn’t the argument. So... you don’t believe losing a #1 wr matters. Cool. Edited June 14, 2019 by titanruss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Matthews was one of the best intermediate targets in the league for his short-lived prime. Averaged 15 YPC and 60 YPG with Mariota and Tanne hill throwing the ball. I'm not convinced that he's the same after the injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, abc2330 said: Matthews was one of the best intermediate targets in the league for his short-lived prime. Averaged 15 YPC and 60 YPG with Mariota and Tanne hill throwing the ball. I'm not convinced that he's the same after the injury This very well may be true. Still doesnt mean that it wasn’t a massive loss to go from what he provided the two previous years to almost zero without real warning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Matthews wasn't a massive loss from a production standpoint. 2017 159 catches, 1977 yards, 6 TD in 268 targets (59% catch rate) 2018 147 catches, 1867 yards, 7 TD in 247 targets (61% catch rate) Just catastrophic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 16 hours ago, titanruss said: And half the board thinks him not playing last year shouldn’t have been a big deal. So...what's your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, titanruss said: This very well may be true. Still doesnt mean that it wasn’t a massive loss to go from what he provided the two previous years to almost zero without real warning. No one typed the words "massive loss"...only you. Magnifying cases, typing things that weren't...may put over you a tag you will not like. BudsOilers, and OILERMAN 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Give me a break, they same cats who use hyperbole to describe every weakness of Marcus are crying fowl about that lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 49 minutes ago, Huston said: Give me a break, they same cats who use hyperbole to describe every weakness of Marcus are crying fowl about that lol. Well, it's because titanruss is wrong once again. There's zero evidence that losing Matthews had a massive impact. Why are the WR numbers for 2017 and 2018 almost identical then? Targets, yards, TD's, catch %, distribution of passes. All it meant was more PT/targets for Taylor and Sharpe primarily as Davis was already the #1 as of TC and was going to be targeted accordingly - at the expense of Matthews. One big reason that he decided to quit the team. 2017 Matthews - 87 targets, 53 catches for 795 yards and 4 TD's Decker - 83 targets, 54 catches for 563 yards and 1 TD Davis - 65 targets, 34 catches for 375 yards Taylor - 28 targets, 16 catches for 316 yards and 1 TD Douglas/Weems, 5 targets, 2 catches for 13 yards Totals - 268 targets, 159 catches for 1977 yards and 6 TD's, 59% catch/target and 12.4 YPC 2018 Davis - 112 targets, 65 catches for 891 yards and 4 TD's Taylor - 56 targets, 37 catches for 416 yards and 1 TD Sharpe - 47 targets, 26 catches for 316 yards and 2 TD Jennings - 15 targets, 11 catches for 101 yards Batson - 11 targets, 8 catches for 82 yards Matthews - 6 targets, 3 catches for 11 yards Totals - 247 targets, 150 catches for 1867 yards and 7 TD's. 61% catch/target and 12.4 YPC Walker was out and the TE numbers were down across the board - targets, catches, yards. TD's and catch % and YPC was up though. The offense basically shifted more passes to the RB's (mainly Lewis) with Walker out but WR targets and production were pretty identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 He isn't though, everything is relative and on this team he was it was a huge loss at wr and I dont need to compare stats to know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Can you name another WR3 who thought he was a #1? Jesus, the motherfucker never got 1k and he wants the Hall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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