ChemEngr79 Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 He didn't play to expectations for the season as a whole even with much improved play in the 2nd half. However, we have no leverage to ask him to take a pay cut as we certainly aren't going to cut him. Hopefully, we get 2nd half Bulter in 19 and don't have to worry about this. If he is hot/cold in 19, then paycut or release is on the table for 2020... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) That also includes Brady, Luck twice and Watson but I'm sure you knew that already. Edited June 16, 2019 by Huston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Huston said: Coming from a poster like you I'll take the high ground on this one not worth the retort. Probably dont want to embarrass yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, OILERMAN said: BTW, Huston, You are honestly one of the biggest homers this board has ever seen. If you mean seeing the big picture and understanding the nuances of the game and not seeing everything and black in white then ok. Edited June 17, 2019 by Huston Soxcat, and enigma 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, headhunter said: Probably dont want to embarrass yourself Nobody believes that but you lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, ChemEngr79 said: He didn't play to expectations for the season as a whole even with much improved play in the 2nd half. However, we have no leverage to ask him to take a pay cut as we certainly aren't going to cut him. Hopefully, we get 2nd half Bulter in 19 and don't have to worry about this. If he is hot/cold in 19, then paycut or release is on the table for 2020... No he didn't, it seemed like they wanted him to be a matchup shut down corner and that's just not who he is. I think they tempered down expectations and he stopped pressing trying to play up to that contract as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Huston said: That also includes Brady, Luck twice and Watson but I'm sure you knew that already. He was the 3rd CB against the Pats, he played 50 of the 66 snaps. On top of that Jackson was asked to single Gordon all over the field, not sure that's a game Butler should be praised. Luck absolutely torched the secondary and Jackson was asked to cover Hilton, not Butler. Butler was the 3rd CB. In the finale Luck had a 110 passer rating. But yea, ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: He was the 3rd CB against the Pats, he played 50 of the 66 snaps. On top of that Jackson was asked to single Gordon all over the field, not sure that's a game Butler should be praised. Luck absolutely torched the secondary and Jackson was asked to cover Hilton, not Butler. Butler was the 3rd CB. In the finale Luck had a 110 passer rating. But yea, ok So because the other corners struggled he sucked lol. Top QBs and OC target the weakest link, you can't hide in the secondary and I dont know why you think that. The guy played damn well the second half. What about his career makes you think the first half is more of who he is as a player then the second. Edited June 16, 2019 by Huston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, Huston said: What about his career makes you think the first half is more of who he is as a player then the second. Bill Belichich benched him in the SB is a bit concerning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Bill Belichich benched him in the SB is a bit concerning Nobody's career is judged from one moment or game or even a few games. Edited June 17, 2019 by Huston Soxcat, and enigma 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 As I said, I have no idea what to expect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, Huston said: Nobody's career is judged from one moment or game or even a few games. Or 4 years apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: He remained demoted until the last few games when Ryan was injured. Before the Ryan injury he was playing about 70% of the snaps while Jackson and Ryan played 100% of the snaps. Was he the top rated CB the 2nd half of the season? That's subjective but I seriously doubt he was one of the better CBs, if he was they would have asked him to cover opposing #1 WRs, they didn't. Jackson did. This is pretty short sighted in my opinion. They rarely ever left Jackson on a pure island like they did with Butler. Let Jackson take the number 1 with help over the top and let Butler shutdown the second WR. That honestly should have been the setup from the start. Edited June 17, 2019 by IsntLifeFunny enigma, and Soxcat 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, headhunter said: Or 4 years apparently You can't even get a Marcus dig right EagleEye, and enigma 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: This is pretty short sighted in my opinion. They rarely ever left Jackson on a pure island like they did with Butler. Let Jackson take the number 1 with help over the top and let Butler shutdown the second WR. That honestly should have been the setup from the start. Butler isn't a shutdown cornerback and that's how they tried to play him early on and he struggled from day one and it just snowballed from there. Edited June 17, 2019 by Huston titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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