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Pras Michel Illegal Campaign Donations to Obama per TMZ

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https://www.tmz.com/2019/05/10/pras-michel-indictment-campaign-finance-barack-obama/

 

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Although the indictment doesn't mention Obama by name ... it says Pras made the donations for a Presidential candidate in the 2012 election, and specifies dates on which Pras posed for pics with that candidate. According to multiple reports, the candidate was Obama.

 

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According to docs, obtained by TMZ, Low would send the money to Pras ... who would then recruit friends -- or "straw donors" -- and then divvy up the funds between them ... so they could make smaller donations to political action committees. The feds believe the smaller donations were made to disguise the source of the money ... namely Jho Low, who's also been indicted.

 

It's illegal for all foreign entities -- not only Russia -- to use money to influence U.S. elections.

Pras' lawyer was quoted saying that his client is disappointed charges would be brought up this late considering it happened in 2012 but is also maintaining his innocence and denying the crime. 

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2 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

And?

 

Is Trump going to pardon them they way he pardoned Dinesh D'Souza for the same crime?

Are you butthurt?

 

Its political news. 

 

I thought yall looked down on whataboutism?

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1 minute ago, JakePA_Titan said:

Are you butthurt?

 

Its political news. 

 

I thought yall looked down on whataboutism?

It’s political news no one cares about. Sure, convict him if he is guilty. But no one here cares. 

 

Whichever Democrat that gets elected president in 2020 won’t be as corrupt as Trump, thus won’t pardon the guy if he gets convicted...

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Rolltide   
2 hours ago, JakePA_Titan said:

Are you butthurt?

 

Its political news. 

 

I thought yall looked down on whataboutism?

The libtards wwould be all orgasmic with each other if they found out Trump had eaten in a Russian restaurant and drank some Stoli. Democrats receiving large amounts of money funneled from rich foreigners is a non issue for them.  

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Rolltide   

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

 

It is absolutely 100% illegal for any candidate to accept campaign money from any foreign national. Country of origin is immaterial. We do not allow rich foreigners to influence elections by donating to campaigns!

 

Of course democrats do this all of the time. Bill Clinton and Al Gore took money from the Chinese in 1996. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/02/22/opinion/al-gore-and-the-temple-of-cash.html

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-was-bill-clintons-russia-1488585526

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After Mr. Trump was elected, any troubles he had finding donors appeared to have vanished. His inaugural fund raised $107 million — four times as much as the pro-Trump political action committee and twice as much as the amount raised for President Barack Obama’s first inauguration. Mr. Barrack was its chairman, and Rick Gates, a longtime business associate of Mr. Manafort’s who served as deputy campaign chairman, ran it.

The inquiry into the inaugural fund appears to involve prosecutors from United States attorney’s offices in Manhattan and Brooklyn, people familiar with the investigation said. The fund has long been a source of infighting among White House advisers and personal friends of Mr. Trump’s, who blamed each other for news reports about questionable expenditures...

 

In fact, though, the fund has already run into trouble related to both donations and expenditures. Mr. Gates, who is awaiting sentencing for crimes related to a financial fraud scheme he executed with Mr. Manafort, has testified that he may have submitted personal expenses for reimbursement from the fund. A later review of the inaugural expenses found no issue with his reimbursements, a person close to Mr. Gates said.

And this year, a well-known Republican lobbyist, Sam Patten, pleaded guilty to arranging for a Ukrainian oligarch and another foreigner to buy $50,000 worth of tickets to an inaugural event, using an American as a straw purchaser.

Investigators have asked witnesses whether other foreigners also contributed illegally to the inaugural committee. Once Mr. Trump was elected, foreign governments were frantically trying to build connections to the incoming administration, including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Although it hosts and heavily subsidizes an American military base, Qatar is constantly striving to counter the influence of its powerful neighbors, also allies of the United States.

 

This notion anyone backing Trump has the high ground is beyond ridiculous. Trump’s sons have been quoted on multiple occasions that they don’t need US banks because they receive most of their money to operate their father’s businesses from Russia. 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Starkiller said:

It’s political news no one cares about. Sure, convict him if he is guilty. But no one here cares. 

 

Whichever Democrat that gets elected president in 2020 won’t be as corrupt as Trump, thus won’t pardon the guy if he gets convicted...

Yet if they are as corrupt as Bill Clinton, then every Democrat will get pardoned.

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23 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

Yet if they are as corrupt as Bill Clinton, then every Democrat will get pardoned.

How many people were pardoned by Ford and Bush Sr? I forgot. 

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1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

How many people were pardoned by Ford and Bush Sr? I forgot. 

Ford - 6

Bush Sr - 8

Clinton - 33

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2 hours ago, Little Earl said:

Ford - 6

Bush Sr - 8

Clinton - 33

Uhhhhh no... where did you get those numbers? This is what I see from every president since Nixon.

Nixon- 926

Ford- 409

Carter- 566

Reagan-406

HW Bush- 77

Clinton- 456

W Bush- 176

Obama- 64

 

 

Here on the justice department website you can see every one of their Pardons individually.

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I think most reasonable posters are aligned on campaign finance reform, having seen so many cases of this weak system being easily bypassed and almost guaranteeing illegal behavior.

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9 minutes ago, begooode said:

I think most reasonable posters are aligned on campaign finance reform, having seeing so many cases of this weak system being easily bypassed and almost guaranteeing illegal behavior.

You think? 

 

It seems ppl are making it about Obama and want to defend him (I dont see why they feel that need to do so) more than focusing on how Russia helped influenced the 2012 election....oh wait.

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