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OILERMAN   
1 hour ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

Top flight QB's aren't paid $21 million anymore, $21 million is the going rate for an average starting QB, any top shelf QB isn't signing for less than $30+ million now.

 

We are paying Mariota $21 million basically because the decision was made last year to exercise the 5th year option and run with Mariota at least till the end of the 2019 season.

Exactly, there isn't any big question about it. 

 

More noteworthy is the fact there has been no discussion about a contract. 

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Justafan   

If they cut Mariota, who was the replacement?  Tannehill?  Please.  Drew Lock?  

 

They had no choice but to put their eggs in the Mariota basket and hope for the best case outcome.  They bought as much insurance as they could.  

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Nash   

My orthopedic colleagues, who are not taking care of him but seem to know a lot of detail about the injuries (given the HIPPA rules), say he should be able to pass a physical with regard to his cervical vertebrae fracture, his foot , and his ribs.. they don't know what the status of his ulnar nerve is however.. but my going joke about it is "rub some CBD oil on it"  LOL

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Soxcat   
1 hour ago, Justafan said:

If they cut Mariota, who was the replacement?  Tannehill?  Please.  Drew Lock?  

 

They had no choice but to put their eggs in the Mariota basket and hope for the best case outcome.  They bought as much insurance as they could.  

Tannehill wouldn't be a drop off if we had to go that route and he might end up playing quite a bit anyway.

Not sure what they did and what they really wanted to do are the same. It certainly seems plausible the plan was to just role with Mariota and Tannehill and try and win as many games as possible.  Worry about the QB situation at the end of the year.  Many scenarios could happen.  Mariota has a good year and stays healthy so we consider franchising him or signing him to a two year deal that isn't mega money.  Or we could sign Tannehill for another year or two and look for a rookie next year.  I do wonder what their thoughts were on Rosen because he was certainly a guy we could have traded for if we really wanted him. 

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OzTitan   
30 minutes ago, JoelinBellevue said:

I wonder if he can pass a mental physical.

Robinson: Dark.
Mariota: Dark.
Robinson: Within cells interlinked.
Mariota: Within cells interlinked.
Robinson: Within one stem.
*Mariota hesitates again.*
Mariota: Within one stem.
Robinson: And dreadfully distinct.
Mariota: And dreadfully distinct.
Robinson: Against the dark.
Mariota: Against the dark.
Robinson: A tall white fountain played.
*Mariota hesitates again. Robinson sees an emotional response has registered.*
Mariota: A tall white fountain played.
Titans: ...You're not even close to Baseline.

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Justafan   
37 minutes ago, OzTitan said:

Robinson: Dark.
Mariota: Dark.
Robinson: Within cells interlinked.
Mariota: Within cells interlinked.
Robinson: Within one stem.
*Mariota hesitates again.*
Mariota: Within one stem.
Robinson: And dreadfully distinct.
Mariota: And dreadfully distinct.
Robinson: Against the dark.
Mariota: Against the dark.
Robinson: A tall white fountain played.
*Mariota hesitates again. Robinson sees an emotional response has registered.*
Mariota: A tall white fountain played.
Titans: ...You're not even close to Baseline.

What is that from?  Bladerunner?

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1 hour ago, Soxcat said:

Tannehill wouldn't be a drop off if we had to go that route and he might end up playing quite a bit anyway.

Not sure what they did and what they really wanted to do are the same. It certainly seems plausible the plan was to just role with Mariota and Tannehill and try and win as many games as possible.  Worry about the QB situation at the end of the year.  Many scenarios could happen.  Mariota has a good year and stays healthy so we consider franchising him or signing him to a two year deal that isn't mega money.  Or we could sign Tannehill for another year or two and look for a rookie next year.  I do wonder what their thoughts were on Rosen because he was certainly a guy we could have traded for if we really wanted him. 

I'm not sure that Tannehill wouldn't be a drop off if Mariota was to go down.  Talent wise they may be the same but Mariota is familar with the system and Smith is familar with Mariota.  

Tannehill can probably match the production of an often hobbled Mariota but if Mariota stays healthy I think he would run this offense far better that Tannehill.

New team, new players, new everything for Tannehill and most of the focus will be on Mariota.

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AvgJoe   

I really hope Mariota does what we drafted him to do this season and emerges as the QB. But as I have often mentioned, I cheer for the name on the front of the jersey versus the name on the back. Time for him to sink or swim. If he struggles or is hurt again, draft another QB in 2020. 

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I don't think they could have cut him if they wanted cause of the injuries.  If they could however I do believe there would have been some serious discussions about cutting him.

tough part is these decisions need to be made early cause you gotta go get another QB...so is it Foles or maybe Flacco.  I personally would be more optimistic about this team if we had Flacco as our QB but then you give up a player like Simmons cause you are probably having to draft a young QB.

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BudAdams   

The premise in the OP is flawed.  Let's go back to the timeline of what happened:

  1. Unsure of Mariota's long term due to inconsistent play, injuries, and a new coaching staff, the Titans exercise the 5th year option as allowed in the CBA.  It was a short term fix to buy more time without committing long term both in terms of money and building around his skill set.  The 5th year option was guaranteed for injury.
  2. Mariota has an up and down, injury plagued season in 2018.  He's unable to play in the finale and the remedy for healing for his various injuries - namely the ulnar nerve and cracked vertebrae - was prolonged rest.
  3. On March 7, the team trades for Tannehill and cuts Gabbert.  Tannehill has one year left on his deal and restructures it to become a Titan.  Tannehill has a similar skill set and is brought in per the GM to "push Mariota".  The strong inference is that he's a viable alternative if Mariota were to miss time or play poorly.
  4. On March 13th, his contract became fully guaranteed.  It's highly debatable that Mariota could have passed a physical before mid March and after the deadline it's moot.  Mariota is getting the $ 21 M regardless - even if he's cut (which he won't be).

The Titans plan is clear to me:

  1. They have two QB's who realistically can play in this offense and win games.
  2. They have no long term commitment to either one.
  3. If one steps up and plays really well, they can commit to them either with a franchise tag or a long term deal.
  4. If neither steps up, one can be a place holder and 2020 is all about finding a draftee who is the long term hope.

 

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Soxcat   
2 hours ago, bizzyeddie said:

I'm not sure that Tannehill wouldn't be a drop off if Mariota was to go down.  Talent wise they may be the same but Mariota is familar with the system and Smith is familar with Mariota.  

Tannehill can probably match the production of an often hobbled Mariota but if Mariota stays healthy I think he would run this offense far better that Tannehill.

New team, new players, new everything for Tannehill and most of the focus will be on Mariota.

I'll agree if healthy Mariota brings more to the table than Tannehill but overall the difference in total is minimal.  Tannehill might actually be a good fit for this system.  We will find out.  I definitely expect Mariota to be our starter for as long as he can remains healthy. 

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