SirLanceALot Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 EagleEye, titanskick8851, and NashvilleNinja 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efus50 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 hours ago, JbgTenn said: Horrible pick, Jrob fked us again but everyone is buying into the media hype. Looking at game tape doesn't look like a player I would pick knowing he wont play this year. Id take Ed Oliver over him all day and them taking him where they did knowing he isn't playing shows they had him higher. Show me a game tape vs elite talent that he dominates that warrants where he was picked knowing he is OV this year. Ed Oliver was not available. You obviously don't listen to people like coach Mac who says his tape is tremendous. Suh cox or a mini version of Donald. Sign me up TheChosenTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 This is part of going from good to great.. have to take on some risk heyitsmeallen, NashvilleNinja, and titanskick8851 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRT Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 So does he start on the PUP or on IR and you bring him up if ready? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) Man there really are some bad takes in here. Anyone who knows football knows this dude is a beast. You can't totally dismiss the acl but it is weird people are freaking out about that. I was really surprised to see people say an acl is a bigger issue for a dt. Is that true? I don't think it is. It seems obvious an acl injury is the most concerning for a rb and other skill position players that have to cut. Strength isn't a problem with acl and if the surgery is good the knee can actually come back stronger. It's the lateral cutting and movement that is concerning. Right? Edited April 26, 2019 by Legaltitan Mythos27, NashvilleNinja, and oldschool 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, FRT said: So does he start on the PUP or on IR and you bring him up if ready? Putting him on PUP would give them an opportunity to move him to the active roster after week 6, but no later than week 12. I'd bet money that this is the route they'll go. IR is a completely different ball game. Only players who are placed on IR after week 1 are eligible to return during the season...and teams are only allowed to return two players from IR. If they were to go this route with Simmons (which is highly unlikely), they'd have to put him on the 53-man roster for week one, then move him to IR. This would cost burn a roster spot for one week and it would also leave only one spot available to return from IR. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
originaloiler Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 50 minutes ago, nine said: Fans are focused almost exclusively on short-term "win now" gratification. They expect immediate ROI, and they're upset if they don't get it. Fortunately, fans' memories and attention spans are just as limited as their vision; their frustrations are quickly forgotten as soon as a pick starts paying off. Coaches are primarily focused on short-term results due to the week-by-week nature of the job. GM decisions are more about a 5-year view for the organization. They understand that building for the long term sometimes requires short-term sacrifices. JRob didn't draft Simmons to provide a quick fix or to upgrade the roster immediately. He sees Simmons as an elite talent and expects him to be a dominant player for at least 4-5 years. If we have to wait a year before seeing ROI on the pick, then so be it; JRob clearly believes he'll be worth the wait. JRob drafted according to his Patriot pedigree, the only thing missing is the Lombardi trophies to justify such a bold choice. I loved the fact that he drafted with a champions mentality, however the fan in me wants us to win now . I like the pick. Titanup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: Man there really are some bad takes in here. Anyone who knows football knows this dude is a beast. You can't totally dismiss the acl but it is weird people are freaking out about that. I suspect many of the negative takes are from people who didn't want Simmons or any other DL in round one; they wanted to go in a different direction altogether. Mythos27, and begooode 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: Man there really are some bad takes in here. Anyone who knows football knows this dude is a beast. You can't totally dismiss the acl but it is weird people are freaking out about that. I was really surprised to see people say an acl is a bigger issue for a dt. Is that true? I don't think it is. It seems obvious an acl injury is the most concerning for a rb and other skill position players that have to cut. Strength isn't a problem with acl and if the surgery is good the knee can actually come back stronger. It's the lateral cutting and movement that is concerning. Right? There’s only 3-4 in here having a hissy fit lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 He looks really lean for 300+ pounds. He's 21 and probably still filling out. ChemEngr79, begooode, and Mythos27 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenj Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, oldschool said: I love the pick. Those who have been around as long or longer than me on this board know where I stand when it comes to impact DTs. It's the second most important position on the field aside from QB. Its rare to get good ones like Casey later in the draft. you have to go get them and take some risks like the teams did with Haynesworth. get 'em jrob Agreed. This is my favorite 1st round pick of the JRob era. We've ignored the DL for way too long. This guy will wreak havoc next to Casey. freakingeek, wiscotitansfan, prometheus, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 I'm actually surprised at the general positive remarks this pick is getting. On this board normally you get more negative than positive. I thought for sure this one would be way more negative than positive. Legaltitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, luvyablue256 said: That tape is just nasty. luvyablue256 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, XanderMXIX said: Is it concerning he only had 7 sacks in 3 years or did I read that wrong? The dude had 33 tackles for loss. He'll be fine. Legaltitan, luvyablue256, TheChosenTitan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Soxcat said: Look, you are all upset because we didn't take Fant (went the next pick). So you sit in the middle of your living room in a diaper crying like a baby. The problem here is we only have one pick so JRob isn't going to make all the diaper wearers happy. We actually took a nasty ass butt licking DT. People should be happy. Fant is a receiving TE anyways. They already have two really good and two pretty good recieving TEs on the roster. If they get another TE, it has to be a guy who can block. Fant simply doesn't fit. Delanie is gonna come back and play at a high level I believe anyways. The dude barely played his first several years in the league. He has more tread left on him than most TEs his age. Simmons is a beast. It's not the guy I wanted but I'm happy with the pick. He has enormous potential to be a blue-chip talent which is what they really needed. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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