SleepingTitan Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 22 hours ago, tgo said: Basically Ryan Fitzmagic without the intelligence. No thanks. Yall are getting silly even suggesting it. I get why shitty beat writers would post it, but I expect better from posters on the #1 Message Board. EagleEye, and TitanDuckFan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaltitan Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: With enough QB needy teams picking in front of us, should Lock make it to #19 that should tell you enough about how the NFL feels about him. Ok, then explain Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, some guy named Brady....to a lesser extent Derek Carr and Jimmy G getting picked after Bortles, Teddy, and Manziel. Mahomes getting to #10. No way he'd go that low now The league gets it wrong plenty of times. Not that Lock will be one of those guys, but its happened before. Edited April 25, 2019 by socaltitan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, TitanTez said: And they ALL suck ASS... Well so far they've all been backups. What would you expect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, abc2330 said: I think that like Josh Allen, Lock will be able to make plays and keep his team competitive despite a crappy supporting cast simply because the big plays that his arm and athleticism can create. Allen went around .500 as a starter with no O line, WRs, or running game. Rosen was in a bad situation, but the team is putting serious consideration into moving on from him because he requires a lot of help around him in order to succeed. Hence my remark about the higher floor. The higher ceiling speaks for itself. And that really isn't much of a difference in accuracy % when you consider the 96 dropped passes the last 3 years from Lock's WRs, and the fact that Rosen's mechanics are basically topped out while Lock's can be improved significantly Josh Allen will likely never be a reliable passer in the NFL. Even if the Bills keep him relatively clean I doubt you'll ever see him become a surgical QB that wins straight from the pocket and IMO if you don't have that upside, you aren't worth drafting high. You keep Rosen clean and he'll pick teams apart, book it. I remember the dropped passes argument being made for Allen last season he had a career comp % of 56.2 in college (similar to Lock) and then proceeded to follow that up with a rookie year comp % of 52.8%. Accuracy rarely gets better and inaccurate passers in college tend to stay that way or get worse in the NFL. Now I'll be totally fair and point out that the Bills receiving corps raked 8th in dropped passes last season but the Cardinals were worse AND even when adjusting for that (PFF) Allen still ranked dead last in the league. Here's an excerpt from a Bills SBnation article: Allen’s critics often cite inaccuracy as a potentially insurmountable problem. His completion percentage of 52.8% only helps that argument. One area PFF examines is adjusted completion rate, which accounts for things like dropped passes, throwaways, and spiked balls. With these considerations, Allen’s adjusted completion percentage climbs to 64.7%, which is a big jump. Unfortunately, when looking at every quarterback with this lens, Allen is dead last in the league. The NFL average was 75.3%. Choosing Allen as an example was a bad move. Fortunately, I'm fair and think Lock is a better prospect than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
socaltitan Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Josh Allen looks like a poor man's Cam Newton nine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 He seems similar to Cutler in skill set but seems to have better leadership/interpersonal skills. I've seen a few interviews with him and he presents himself like a top tier QB. I bet he will tell the coaches what plays he likes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Lol Paul knows where his bread is buttered ... Again, a great chance it doesn't happen but it's not an afterthought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, big2033 said: Lol Paul knows where his bread is buttered ... Again, a great chance it doesn't happen but it's not an afterthought. That’s one awkward, gangly looking motherfucker. Oilerman and PK would be best buds big2033, EagleEye, and SuperFreak90 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted April 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 The outrageous reactions of some people make me want to see it happen. woolfolksunclesuncle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Honestly, IMO everyone should hold their hot takes on Lock being good or bad until after the draft. Save your sanity and breath. It's too close to the deadline for it to matter. Right now, it's all about: "Can this actually happen?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, big2033 said: Honestly, IMO everyone should hold their hot takes on Lock being good or bad until after the draft. Save your sanity and breath. It's too close to the deadline for it to matter. Right now, it's all about: "Can this actually happen?" Hot take....... Most likely he'll be bad (like the vast majority of drafted QB's!). big2033 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 The term be careful what you wish for seems pretty appropriate right now. EagleEye 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Huston said: The term be careful what you wish for seems pretty appropriate right now. It always is. Bringing in passing guru and QB whisperer Ken Whisenhunt is a good example. Edited April 25, 2019 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ap24786 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 20 hours ago, big2033 said: Well ... why would a GM even say something so ridiculous? You think he believed it'd be national news? And wasn't it also Daniel Jeremiah and one of his "rumor sources"? Not saying it's that credible, I'm saying the fact it's being taken seriously is telling. You've really gone off the edge. Just driving the narrative bus right off the cliff. You get so much satisfaction from even the smallest slights of Mariota. "I heard an anonymous GM who heard from an anonymous front office exec who heard from an anonymous scout who heard from some fans that the Titans should take Lock... OMG! the fact that this rumor even came up... what does that say about Mariota?!" Even if this rumor ends up being true, it would be the dumbest move the Titans have made. Trying to replace one of the more accurate QBs in the NFL for not even a consensus top 3 QB in one of the worst QB drafts in a while. If you're really going to draft a QB at least go all in and draft a good one like Kyler or Tua. TitanJoe, Huston, and titanruss 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, ap24786 said: You've really gone off the edge. Just driving the narrative bus right off the cliff. You get so much satisfaction from even the smallest slights of Mariota. "I heard an anonymous GM who heard from an anonymous front office exec who heard from an anonymous scout who heard from some fans that the Titans should take Lock... OMG! the fact that this rumor even came up... what does that say about Mariota?!" Even if this rumor ends up being true, it would be the dumbest move the Titans have made. Trying to replace one of the more accurate QBs in the NFL for not even a consensus top 3 QB in one of the worst QB drafts in a while. If you're really going to draft a QB at least go all in and draft a good one like Kyler or Tua. I get satisfaction on being right about Mariota being accountable for his situation when it pertains to his performance as our "franchise" QB. Absolutely. But just like Henry, I hope if he is our QB he also becomes accountable for his success. I gave Henry most of the kudos for his success ... just like I gave him shit for his failures. It's called not falling in love and making excuses for a player past their first few years in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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