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Should Democrats impeach Trump?

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The Mueller report is divided into two volumes.

 

  • Volume I covers the collusion question.
  • Volume II considers whether the president obstructed the investigation.
  • But of course there would have been no obstruction investigation had there not been the collusion allegation to begin with. 
  • There would be no Volume II if there were no Volume I.

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5 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said:

You can't have obstruction without a crime

I disagree, and so does legal precedent.

 

But that doesn’t change the fact that he still committed crimes. And he knew it. That’s why he said “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m fucked” when Mueller was appointed. 

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8 minutes ago, TitansFan777 said:

 

Same thread. 45 minutes later...

 

 

Where is the conspiracy? This isn't a secret, it's out in the open.

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1 minute ago, Starkiller said:

I disagree, and so does legal precedent.

 

But that doesn’t change the fact that he still committed crimes. And he knew it. That’s why he said “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m fucked” when Mueller was appointed. 

 

You are right on the first part. You can have obstruction even though the underlying crime was found to be false.

 

On the second part, give the whole quote.

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2 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

I disagree, and so does legal precedent.

 

But that doesn’t change the fact that he still committed crimes. And he knew it. That’s why he said “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m fucked” when Mueller was appointed. 

Mueller did not see it and nor did AG Barr.

 

You are just angry that the President did not comply with the attempted coup d'etat on this country.

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1 minute ago, TennesseeTuxedo said:

Mueller did not see it and nor did AG Barr.

 

You are just angry that the President did not comply with the attempted coup d'etat on this country.

 

If you destroy evidence, even though no crime was found, you can be guilty of obstruction. It's not correct to say you can't obstruct without a crime.

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1 minute ago, ben4titans said:

 

If you destroy evidence, even though no crime was found, you can be guilty of obstruction. It's not correct to say you can't obstruct without a crime.

Correct, but all these dumbass libtards think some horrible crime was committed.  How many times do we need to point out the wrong things Hillary has done from whitewater to the emails, and they never cared.  Instead they gleefully voted for her.  

 

Lol at impeachment.   Bill Clinton deserved impeachment much more than Trump, and the left fought that as well.

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3 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

Correct, but all these dumbass libtards think some horrible crime was committed.  How many times do we need to point out the wrong things Hillary has done from whitewater to the emails, and they never cared.  Instead they gleefully voted for her.  

 

Lol at impeachment.   Bill Clinton deserved impeachment much more than Trump, and the left fought that as well.

Trump deserves an apology, not impeachment.

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3 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

Correct, but all these dumbass libtards think some horrible crime was committed.  How many times do we need to point out the wrong things Hillary has done from whitewater to the emails, and they never cared.  Instead they gleefully voted for her.  

A crime was committed by Trump. A few of them. And it’s only political realities that keep Trump from being impeached. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

Lol at impeachment.   Bill Clinton deserved impeachment much more than Trump, and the left fought that as well.

Clinton got impeached for lying. Trump’s only saving grace was that his team knew he would lie under oath so they refused to let him testify. So he only lies not under oath, thus it isn’t illegal. 

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4 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

Correct, but all these dumbass libtards think some horrible crime was committed.  How many times do we need to point out the wrong things Hillary has done from whitewater to the emails, and they never cared.  Instead they gleefully voted for her.  

 

You can point out their hypocrisy by using whataboutism, but whataboutism doesn't strengthen your argument when you are defending Trump. You have to be able to defend his actions separate of what may or may not have happened in the past. Luckily, it is easy to defend him without doing that.

 

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1 hour ago, Legaltitan said:

No. Absolutely not.

 

I will say right now - I don't care what is "right." This is big boy politics. There is no bigger political move than impeachment proceedings.

 

The House would successfully impeach him, but the Senate would not convict. 

It would be done for political reasons. Trump is abusing power and his crimes are real. That’s the difference you and others are missing with Bill and Obama, their attacks were made up bull shit. 

 

Trump was damaged politically by Cohen’s testimony. An impeachment hearing with daily public testimony would be damaging. Trump get sympathy? No f-ing way. 

 

And no the senate likely wouldn’t vote to convict but they would have to put their name on not convicting and in the future that’s going to be bad. 

 

Think about the people who supported the Iraq war. Down the road being a Trump toadie will likely be more damaging. As more stuff comes out it’s going to get worse.

 

Whether he’s impeached is meaningless, the hearings and public evidence would go on right up until the election. 

 

They need to attack and stop with the constant bending over and taking it hoping things will change 

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5 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

It would be done for political reasons. Trump is abusing power and his crimes are real. That’s the difference you and others are missing with Bill and Obama, their attacks were made up bull shit. 

 

Trump was damaged politically by Cohen’s testimony. An impeachment hearing with daily public testimony would be damaging. Trump get sympathy? No f-ing way. 

 

And no the senate likely wouldn’t vote to convict but they would have to put their name on not convicting and in the future that’s going to be bad. 

 

Think about the people who supported the Iraq war. Down the road being a Trump toadie will likely be more damaging. As more stuff comes out it’s going to get worse.

 

Whether he’s impeached is meaningless, the hearings and public evidence would go on right up until the election. 

 

They need to attack and stop with the constant bending over and taking it hoping things will change 

They're going to have the public hearings and testimonies anyway in the form of House investigations.

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6 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

It would be done for political reasons. Trump is abusing power and his crimes are real. That’s the difference you and others are missing with Bill and Obama, their attacks were made up bull shit. 

 

Trump was damaged politically by Cohen’s testimony. An impeachment hearing with daily public testimony would be damaging. Trump get sympathy? No f-ing way. 

 

And no the senate likely wouldn’t vote to convict but they would have to put their name on not convicting and in the future that’s going to be bad. 

 

Think about the people who supported the Iraq war. Down the road being a Trump toadie will likely be more damaging. As more stuff comes out it’s going to get worse.

 

Whether he’s impeached is meaningless, the hearings and public evidence would go on right up until the election. 

 

They need to attack and stop with the constant bending over and taking it hoping things will change 

 

What power is he abusing? What crimes is he committing? 

 

Why are the moderators allowed to CONTINUE to spread fake news after being humiliatingly shown to have spread false info for 2 years?

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