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29 minutes ago, Alzarius said:

 

 

I bet I've seen 50+ comments already blaming this on Muslim terrorist

 

 

It's not absurd. Some people really think this way.

50+ comments. Really backs up stars opinion that plenty feel that way.

 

There are ppl that really think 9/11 was the government's doing. 

 

And?

 

Ppl dont fear that the next Muslim they run into in the street is going to murder them. That's fucking beyond ignorant. That is the basic mindset of what SK was getting at. 

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36 minutes ago, Alzarius said:

 

 

I bet I've seen 50+ comments already blaming this on Muslim terrorist

 

 

It's not absurd. Some people really think this way.

Well, the numerous cases of desecration and arson Newsweek's article mentioned were started by someone.

So, any chance it was Mormons?  Presbyterians?  Atheists?  Muslims?  Planned Parenthood?

 

I mean, I suppose we could flip a coin if it would make you feel better.

Or, we could apply some logical though processes and eliminate the likelihood of some perpetrators based on how most current religions preach about violence towards other religions and their followers.

Of course that wouldn't include atheists,...

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10 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

Well, the numerous cases of desecration and arson Newsweek's article mentioned were started by someone.

So, any chance it was Mormons?  Presbyterians?  Atheists?  Muslims?  Planned Parenthood?

 

I mean, I suppose we could flip a coin if it would make you feel better.

Or, we could apply some logical though processes and eliminate the likelihood of some perpetrators based on how most current religions preach about violence towards other religions and their followers.

Of course that wouldn't include atheists,...

In America, most churches are burned down by Christians. On the other hand, Notre Dame isn’t a black church...

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11 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

In America, most churches are burned down by Christians. On the other hand, Notre Dame isn’t a black church...

Last time I checked this wasn't taking place in America.

Are your "sources" telling you something different?

ROFL

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2 hours ago, Alzarius said:

 

Even if it's no, getting this thing back into the shape it was in will take many years.

 

Pictures seem to be getting worse.  

Even restored it would never be the same. Everything burning is 850 years old. You can't replace that. Very sad.

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23 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said:

50+ comments. Really backs up stars opinion that plenty feel that way.

 

There are ppl that really think 9/11 was the government's doing. 

 

And?

 

Ppl dont fear that the next Muslim they run into in the street is going to murder them. That's fucking beyond ignorant. That is the basic mindset of what SK was getting at. 

 

 

It's not just this story.

 

I belong to several religious feeds that most here wouldnt touch.  

 

I'm Catholic and every time the Pope mentions getting along with Muslims, the feeds are littered with the same typed of comments.

 

"They just want to kill us"

 

I also work in a mom and pop shop where a large portion that come in, are religious. I hear passing by comments weekly.  Last week I had to listen to a guy go on and on for 10 minutes about how God us going to come lay waste to all Muslims because of their violence.

 

I'm not trying to  put a number or percentage on it but there are plenty of people who feel this way about them. It may be less than Starkiller believes and more than you  believe but they still exists in large enough numbers to be noticable.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Former_Fan said:

Even restored it would never be the same. Everything burning is 850 years old. You can't replace that. Very sad.

 

 

The spire held several very old relics. 

 

I've read that they got a lot of artwork out as well as some relics out and as of now, they are still trying to save some "in the back of the church"

 

I wont argue whether they are authentic or not, but at least one that is believed to be authentic dates all the way back to Constantine.

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Alzarius said:

 

 

The spire held several very old relics. 

 

I've read that they got a lot of artwork out as well as some relics out and as of now, they are still trying to save some "in the back of the church"

 

I wont argue whether they are authentic or not, but at least one that is believed to be authentic dates all the way back to Constantine.

 

 

 

That is just unreal. As far as things being authentic or not, there is always a chance that originals were locked up at a more secure location as a precaution from something like this happening.

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15 minutes ago, Alzarius said:

 

 

It's not just this story.

 

I belong to several religious feeds that most here wouldnt touch.  

 

I'm Catholic and every time the Pope mentions getting along with Muslims, the feeds are littered with the same typed of comments.

 

"They just want to kill us"

 

I also work in a mom and pop shop where a large portion that come in, are religious. I hear passing by comments weekly.  Last week I had to listen to a guy go on and on for 10 minutes about how God us going to come lay waste to all Muslims because of their violence.

 

I'm not trying to  put a number or percentage on it but there are plenty of people who feel this way about them. It may be less than Starkiller believes and more than you  believe but they still exists in large enough numbers to be noticable.

 

 

Plenty is considered to be a significant amount. 

 

And seeing a handful of social media posts here and there doesnt quantify that level of branding on the entire country's population.

 

I love seeing ppl make something they disagree with out to be an epidemic. 

 

Ppl are quick to say what is an embarrassment to our country while they run around calling half of it racist, sexist, homophobic, and Anti Muslim just because they witness it from time to time on the smallest of scales like they arent embarrassing themselves and the country itself. 

 

And if there are plenty of ppl that feel that way, Look no further than to the media for why they do. Because I'm pretty sure it was them telling the American ppl Muslims and others of Middle Eastern descent hated America and what it stood for. 

 

Sometimes, when ppl plant something into someone's head by repeating it over and over and over, you know, like collusion....ppl start to believe it. Just saying. 

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23 minutes ago, Alzarius said:

 

 

It's not just this story.

 

I belong to several religious feeds that most here wouldnt touch.  

 

I'm Catholic and every time the Pope mentions getting along with Muslims, the feeds are littered with the same typed of comments.

 

"They just want to kill us"

 

I also work in a mom and pop shop where a large portion that come in, are religious. I hear passing by comments weekly.  Last week I had to listen to a guy go on and on for 10 minutes about how God us going to come lay waste to all Muslims because of their violence.

 

I'm not trying to  put a number or percentage on it but there are plenty of people who feel this way about them. It may be less than Starkiller believes and more than you  believe but they still exists in large enough numbers to be noticable.

You're right Al.

https://www.encounteringislam.org/misconceptions#5

 

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Most Muslims are moderate, pious people who suffer more from terrorism and violence than non-Muslims. Ninety-three percent of Muslims do not support extremist views of terrorism.

So only 7% support extremist views.

 

However, there are 2.25 BILLION Muslims in the world.

http://muslimpopulation.com/World/

 

So doing the math, roughly 157,000,000 (Million) or about half the population of the United States.  That's about how many Muslims there are who support the violent tenets of Islam.

 

Maybe some of those people's fears are warranted.  I mean, how much blame can you assign to them with numbers like that?

Would you argue that 157 Million is an insignificant number of people?

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3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

I'm guessing it's one of the many minors sexually assaulted within the Catholic church striking back 

Shut up OMan, you’re just frustrating the board tard more. I guess there are certain things a Methodist preacher won’t fuck either.

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First, the Notre Dame women's basketball team was on fire in making the NCAA finals, and now the church is on fire. 

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5 minutes ago, Denali said:

First, the Notre Dame women's basketball team was on fire in making the NCAA finals, and now the church is on fire. 

He doesn’t seem to want to talk about you either Touched The Tard. Just what are you hiding? Believe me, I’ll find out.

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