TitanDuckFan Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, Alzarius said: I bet I've seen 50+ comments already blaming this on Muslim terrorist It's not absurd. Some people really think this way. Well, the numerous cases of desecration and arson Newsweek's article mentioned were started by someone. So, any chance it was Mormons? Presbyterians? Atheists? Muslims? Planned Parenthood? I mean, I suppose we could flip a coin if it would make you feel better. Or, we could apply some logical though processes and eliminate the likelihood of some perpetrators based on how most current religions preach about violence towards other religions and their followers. Of course that wouldn't include atheists,... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted April 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said: Well, the numerous cases of desecration and arson Newsweek's article mentioned were started by someone. So, any chance it was Mormons? Presbyterians? Atheists? Muslims? Planned Parenthood? I mean, I suppose we could flip a coin if it would make you feel better. Or, we could apply some logical though processes and eliminate the likelihood of some perpetrators based on how most current religions preach about violence towards other religions and their followers. Of course that wouldn't include atheists,... In America, most churches are burned down by Christians. On the other hand, Notre Dame isn’t a black church... Edited April 15, 2019 by Starkiller CreepingDeath, woolfolksunclesuncle, OILERMAN, and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Starkiller said: In America, most churches are burned down by Christians. On the other hand, Notre Dame isn’t a black church... Last time I checked this wasn't taking place in America. Are your "sources" telling you something different? ROFL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Alzarius said: Even if it's no, getting this thing back into the shape it was in will take many years. Pictures seem to be getting worse. Even restored it would never be the same. Everything burning is 850 years old. You can't replace that. Very sad. Alzarius, and TitanDuckFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzarius Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, JakePA_Titan said: 50+ comments. Really backs up stars opinion that plenty feel that way. There are ppl that really think 9/11 was the government's doing. And? Ppl dont fear that the next Muslim they run into in the street is going to murder them. That's fucking beyond ignorant. That is the basic mindset of what SK was getting at. It's not just this story. I belong to several religious feeds that most here wouldnt touch. I'm Catholic and every time the Pope mentions getting along with Muslims, the feeds are littered with the same typed of comments. "They just want to kill us" I also work in a mom and pop shop where a large portion that come in, are religious. I hear passing by comments weekly. Last week I had to listen to a guy go on and on for 10 minutes about how God us going to come lay waste to all Muslims because of their violence. I'm not trying to put a number or percentage on it but there are plenty of people who feel this way about them. It may be less than Starkiller believes and more than you believe but they still exists in large enough numbers to be noticable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzarius Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Former_Fan said: Even restored it would never be the same. Everything burning is 850 years old. You can't replace that. Very sad. The spire held several very old relics. I've read that they got a lot of artwork out as well as some relics out and as of now, they are still trying to save some "in the back of the church" I wont argue whether they are authentic or not, but at least one that is believed to be authentic dates all the way back to Constantine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former_Fan Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Alzarius said: The spire held several very old relics. I've read that they got a lot of artwork out as well as some relics out and as of now, they are still trying to save some "in the back of the church" I wont argue whether they are authentic or not, but at least one that is believed to be authentic dates all the way back to Constantine. That is just unreal. As far as things being authentic or not, there is always a chance that originals were locked up at a more secure location as a precaution from something like this happening. Alzarius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanDuckFan Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Alzarius said: It's not just this story. I belong to several religious feeds that most here wouldnt touch. I'm Catholic and every time the Pope mentions getting along with Muslims, the feeds are littered with the same typed of comments. "They just want to kill us" I also work in a mom and pop shop where a large portion that come in, are religious. I hear passing by comments weekly. Last week I had to listen to a guy go on and on for 10 minutes about how God us going to come lay waste to all Muslims because of their violence. I'm not trying to put a number or percentage on it but there are plenty of people who feel this way about them. It may be less than Starkiller believes and more than you believe but they still exists in large enough numbers to be noticable. You're right Al. https://www.encounteringislam.org/misconceptions#5 Quote Most Muslims are moderate, pious people who suffer more from terrorism and violence than non-Muslims. Ninety-three percent of Muslims do not support extremist views of terrorism. So only 7% support extremist views. However, there are 2.25 BILLION Muslims in the world. http://muslimpopulation.com/World/ So doing the math, roughly 157,000,000 (Million) or about half the population of the United States. That's about how many Muslims there are who support the violent tenets of Islam. Maybe some of those people's fears are warranted. I mean, how much blame can you assign to them with numbers like that? Would you argue that 157 Million is an insignificant number of people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 I'm guessing it's one of the many minors sexually assaulted within the Catholic church striking back woolfolksunclesuncle, and CaliTitan3518 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: I'm guessing it's one of the many minors sexually assaulted within the Catholic church striking back Shut up OMan, you’re just frustrating the board tard more. I guess there are certain things a Methodist preacher won’t fuck either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denali Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 First, the Notre Dame women's basketball team was on fire in making the NCAA finals, and now the church is on fire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Denali said: First, the Notre Dame women's basketball team was on fire in making the NCAA finals, and now the church is on fire. He doesn’t seem to want to talk about you either Touched The Tard. Just what are you hiding? Believe me, I’ll find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, JakePA_Titan said: 50+ comments. Really backs up stars opinion that plenty feel that way. There are ppl that really think 9/11 was the government's doing. And? Ppl dont fear that the next Muslim they run into in the street is going to murder them. That's fucking beyond ignorant. That is the basic mindset of what SK was getting at. Sure they do. Just like some folks short black people for knocking on their door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzarius Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 hours ago, TitanDuckFan said: Maybe some of those people's fears are warranted. I mean, how much blame can you assign to them with numbers like that? Would you argue that 157 Million is an insignificant number of people? I think location means a lot. People in Nigeria, today, have every reason to be concerned. People in Tennessee on the other hand, have much less to be concerned about. (Especially in my small town) I wouldn't say its insignificant, thats not what I am trying to say. I would say you're more likely to be hurt by your neighbor when you step out of the door or a car crash than some Islamic terrorist. I have not left my house once thinking "I need to be careful because some terrorist may get me today" Now tomorrow my store will be bombed and itll be all your fault TitanDuckFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 Why wouldn't you suspect Muslims were involved in this? They already had a planned attack by ISIS prevented in 2016. Only stupid people like Starkiller wouldn't suspect them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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