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big2033   
10 minutes ago, 8MM said:

But yet you're in favor of him still being the starter here...this year, as you have stated many times. 

 

Do you always talk both sides of your mouth?  Say something that make sense and be consistent with it. 

If he says that it makes perfect sense considering our circumstances.

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Number9   

The Titans win because of the team they have built around Marcus.  The defense is stingy, so all we need is three TD.  If Mariota could stay healthy wire to wire, the Titans can win 10+ games.  Marcus has maybe the best play fake in the NFL.  The problem is his inability to make teams pay big for biting on it.  There's no reason they shouldn't be getting big chunk plays off it.  I think the coaches share some blame, but if he won't risk big throws their hands are tied.

 

People post all the great stats about 3rd down, distance the ball travels in the air and other passing accolades, like the completion percentage record in Houston where he didn't make one memorable throw.  He refuses to step outside his range to make plays.  When it comes to awe inspiring passes, Mariota's list is too short.

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1 hour ago, big2033 said:

Head coaches don't become head coaches being completely clueless on how to coach a player. Yes, some are better than others, but it's rare for one to be so bad that a QB's success and failure rests on them.

 

These are pros, coaching pros. So to rest a QB's ultimate survival in the NFL on them is ... in my opinion ... foolish. There isn't an NFL coach bad enough to "ruin" a QB.

I’m not just talking head coaches. I’m talking QB coach as well. Offensive coordinator. 

 

And I agree on the last part; it is foolish to rest the ultimate survival on the coaches. The player has to be coachable. But what you seem to be getting at is that coaches have little impact, and I wholeheartedly disagree with that notion. 

 

If Mariota fails, you can’t place blame PURELY on Mariota. You have to place blame on the FO at the time as well. 

 

Are you honestly telling me that you think the FO has put Mariota in the best position to succeed?

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8MM   
10 minutes ago, big2033 said:

If he says that it makes perfect sense considering our circumstances.

If he says he's a poor passer yet wants him here this year, makes sense to you?  Regardless of the situation, a poor passer shouldn't be on a team. 

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big2033   
6 minutes ago, StephenIsLegend said:

I’m not just talking head coaches. I’m talking QB coach as well. Offensive coordinator. 

 

And I agree on the last part; it is foolish to rest the ultimate survival on the coaches. The player has to be coachable. But what you seem to be getting at is that coaches have little impact, and I wholeheartedly disagree with that notion. 

 

If Mariota fails, you can’t place blame PURELY on Mariota. You have to place blame on the FO at the time as well. 

 

Are you honestly telling me that you think the FO has put Mariota in the best position to succeed?

Coaches have impact on HOW GREAT a player will be. But a player has to have "it" already. But I expect the player to have some level of success regardless of coach.

 

QB's like WIlson were showing signs early, and simply kept growing.

 

We have a QB that has been average across the board.

 

Then you have Andrew Luck that was already good-to-great ... exploded with a coaching upgrade. But Luck was never average.

 

That's the difference. We haven't had an above average season from Mariota. Just average to bad.

 

We should be arguing about a coaching staff turning him from good to great. You're not going to be able to make average players great. They'll have to do it themselves.

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big2033   
8 minutes ago, 8MM said:

If he says he's a poor passer yet wants him here this year, makes sense to you?  Regardless of the situation, a poor passer shouldn't be on a team. 

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Yes. The options outside of not giving him another shot are not great right now. The other option would be to bring in a starter like Tannehill ... oh wait. That's what we did.

 

The NFL is littered with poor QB play.

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5 minutes ago, big2033 said:

Coaches have impact on HOW GREAT a player will be. But a player has to have "it" already. But I expect the player to have some level of success regardless of coach.

 

QB's like WIlson were showing signs early, and simply kept growing.

 

We have a QB that has been average across the board.

 

Then you have Andrew Luck that was already good-to-great ... exploded with a coaching upgrade. But Luck was never average.

 

That's the difference. We haven't had an above average season from Mariota. Just average to bad.

 

We should be arguing about a coaching staff turning him from good to great. You're not going to be able to make average players great. They'll have to do it themselves.

Luck was never average? Hahah. Dude, everyone laughs at @Face‘s famous Andrew Locker thread now, but it had merit then.  

 

Coaching helps more than you think. 

 

However, we are just talking in circles. I’m going to agree to disagree. 

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big2033   
12 minutes ago, StephenIsLegend said:

Luck was never average? Hahah. Dude, everyone laughs at @Face‘s famous Andrew Locker thread now, but it had merit then.  

 

Coaching helps more than you think. 

 

However, we are just talking in circles. I’m going to agree to disagree. 

Who cares what Face thinks? He was a HUGE minority in that thinking. Luck was always carrying his team. I've always believed that.

 

Anyone could see that and the league knew. And he still had a 40td season with a worse staff and a worse o-line and no running game. THAT is a franchise QB. No matter what, he's the best player on the field ... because ... he's the best player on the field.

 

 

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8MM   
1 hour ago, big2033 said:

Yes. The options outside of not giving him another shot are not great right now. (Why would you give a poor passer another shot?)  The other option would be to bring in a starter like Tannehill ... oh wait. That's what we did.

 

The NFL is littered with poor QB play. 

You and Oman are literally sooooooooooo stupid that it boggles the mind.

 

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Welp, there's 3 QBs on the Titans currently, so I guess it's time to trade him in the draft.

 

Save that cap space JRob, you can probably get a 4th this year, or a 3rd next year for him.

Let Tannehill do the heavy lifting.

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big2033   
8 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

Welp, there's 3 QBs on the Titans currently, so I guess it's time to trade him in the draft.

 

Save that cap space JRob, you can probably get a 4th this year, or a 3rd next year for him.

Let Tannehill do the heavy lifting.

Not worth it.

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big2033   
19 minutes ago, 8MM said:

You and Oman are literally sooooooooooo stupid that it boggles the mind.

 

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It's not worth getting rid of him. Better to let it play out. Simple. You want it to be black and white but its not.

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2 hours ago, big2033 said:

Who cares what Face thinks? He was a HUGE minority in that thinking. Luck was always carrying his team. I've always believed that.

 

Anyone could see that and the league knew. And he still had a 40td season with a worse staff and a worse o-line and no running game. THAT is a franchise QB. No matter what, he's the best player on the field ... because ... he's the best player on the field.

 

 

Because Face carries more football acumen than most on this board. He is a respected poster. And I just bring that thread up because Luck hasn’t always looked great. 

 

Lol. Okay, then. I’ll let you continue with thinking coaching barely matters. I’m clearly not changing your mind. 

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8MM   
48 minutes ago, big2033 said:

It's not worth getting rid of him. Better to let it play out. Simple. You want it to be black and white but its not.

I didn't make it out to be black or white, you guys did with your Marcus statements. 

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