OILERMAN Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, titanruss said: I’m fine moving on. I’ve got no emotional attachment. LOL Riiiiiight wiscotitansfan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denali Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: He plays the same whether he can grip a ball or not? That’s what makes him so great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helios Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 So who's to blame for trotting him out there? The org or Mariota himself? If he was more beat up than a crash test dummy why risk your hopeful franchise QB or your future? Seems like an oversight from the medical staff or Mariota is just reckless, and considering how he runs, it was probably his decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 When someone shows you they aren't interested in the truth and won't even acknowledge it why keep discussing it with them....I tell myself. titanruss, and EagleEye 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 I believe everyone knows that Mariota was not 100% starting with the Miami game but what player that actually plays is 100% healthy. Sorry but I don't believe there's any evidence to show that the Titans put him out there when he couldn't grip a football. When he was injured too much to play, he didn't with the lone exception at Jacksonville when Gabbert was out with the concussion. It seemed obvious that the nerve injury impacted the play calling and his throws. It's a real stretch to say he was significantly impaired the next week when they played the Eagles and threw it 43 times. 6 games later (in that span they played the Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Cowboys, and NE), he suffered the stinger at Indy but then he played the Houston game the following week - a game that many on here hail as a great performance. 4 games later (Jets, Jaguars, Giants), he got injured again in the Redskins game. It seems to some of us that the ulnar nerve issue is used as a free pass for any bad pass or game in 2018. It's overstated and when you look at the play calling, it sure didn't look like they accommodated for it beyond that first Jaguars game, when he wasn't supposed to play. Blame Robinson for not having Davis on board until after the Jaguars game. Number9, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, BudAdams said: I believe everyone knows that Mariota was not 100% starting with the Miami game but what player that actually plays is 100% healthy. Sorry but I don't believe there's any evidence to show that the Titans put him out there when he couldn't grip a football. When he was injured too much to play, he didn't with the lone exception at Jacksonville when Gabbert was out with the concussion. It seemed obvious that the nerve injury impacted the play calling and his throws. It's a real stretch to say he was significantly impaired the next week when they played the Eagles and threw it 43 times. 6 games later (in that span they played the Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Cowboys, and NE), he suffered the stinger at Indy but then he played the Houston game the following week - a game that many on here hail as a great performance. 4 games later (Jets, Jaguars, Giants), he got injured again in the Redskins game. It seems to some of us that the ulnar nerve issue is used as a free pass for any bad pass or game in 2018. It's overstated and when you look at the play calling, it sure didn't look like they accommodated for it beyond that first Jaguars game, when he wasn't supposed to play. Blame Robinson for not having Davis on board until after the Jaguars game. The last part is incorrect. It’s not being used as a free pass; it’s just that it seems the nerve issue to SOME didn’t pose a change in play. It clearly did. Its been discussed to death and widely accepted this is Marcus’s last chance to prove it. I’m just ready for some clarity because I’m tired of reading all the bullshit narratives in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Mariota's splits on passes by air distance (behind LOS, 1-10, 10-20, etc.) were almost identical in 2018 as they were in 2017. One would have expected more short passes if the grip issue was so prevalent throughout. Source - ESPN 2018 2017 Pass Thrown Behind Line of Scrimmage 25% 20% Pass Thrown 1-10 yds 44% 45% Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 24% 26% Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 4% 6% Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 2% 3% Pass Thrown 41+ yds 2% 0% In the Jacksonville game, every pass attempt was short. In every other game he played, they had some passes beyond that, whether they were successful or not. Edited March 28, 2019 by BudAdams OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, JakePA_Titan said: Anyone else find it funny that ppl are using the fact Mariota suffered multiple injuries as some kind of defence when everyone acknowledges his health is the biggest concern? Just how stupid are you? titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyeddie Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Yea that was a problem early in the year when he missed time or wore a glove but he didn't have god damn broken hand/arm and you don't throw 331 attempts of you can't grip a football. I'd say it's pretty alarming that his 2017 and 2018 seasons were so closely related production wise. He plays the same whether he can grip a ball or not? I think a better way to look at it is... can grip a ball and Mularkey is your coach = cant grip a ball and Mularkey isn't your coach Huston, and titanruss 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, bizzyeddie said: I think a better way to look at it is... can grip a ball and Mularkey is your coach = cant grip a ball and Mularkey isn't your coach Why are the passing yard attempt stats so similar then? That doesn't jive with the narrative. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyeddie Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, BudAdams said: Why are the passing yard attempt stats so similar then? That doesn't jive with the narrative. it was more of a joke than a narrative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, BudAdams said: Mariota's splits on passes by air distance (behind LOS, 1-10, 10-20, etc.) were almost identical in 2018 as they were in 2017. One would have expected more short passes if the grip issue was so prevalent throughout. Source - ESPN 2018 2017 Pass Thrown Behind Line of Scrimmage 25% 20% Pass Thrown 1-10 yds 44% 45% Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 24% 26% Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 4% 6% Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 2% 3% Pass Thrown 41+ yds 2% 0% In the Jacksonville game, every pass attempt was short. In every other game he played, they had some passes beyond that, whether they were successful or not. Exactly, his mediocrity was the same without the two broken arms, blown out knees and two sprained wrists!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Exactly, his mediocrity was the same without the two broken arms, blown out knees and two sprained wrists!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Exactly, his mediocrity was the same without the two broken arms, blown out knees and two sprained wrists!!!! wasn't there a reddit thread about this? titanruss, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, OILERMAN said: I'd say it's pretty alarming that his 2017 and 2018 seasons were so closely related production wise. He plays the same whether he can grip a ball or not? You will shit all over this as nothing but homer excuses because you have your own homer ass excuses for your POV. But... 2017: Mularkey & Robiskie mixed with periodically bad Marcus 2018: Nerve injury & re-aggravation, plus all the other alleged injuries, mixed with periodically bad Marcus Edited March 28, 2019 by NashvilleNinja OILERMAN, and big2033 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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