Popular Post Titans279 Posted March 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Quote The ulnar nerve issue in his throwing arm that started when he got stepped on opening day in Miami and left him with a tingly hand was the first big one. He missed two starts with that, though he played in the second one. The neck stinger suffered in Indianapolis on Nov. 18 and then reaggravated in Week 16 in Washington that cost him the crucial Week 17 game against the Colts was the second. He also suffered a cracked vertebra, presumably with the initial stinger. There was a significant tear of the plantar fascia in a foot that finally tore all the way in Week 16. That is actually often regarded as a good development that relieves the severe pain, renders surgery unnecessary and allows a player to learn how to play without the support of the ligaments. He also dealt with a strained oblique, a broken rib and a sprained AC shoulder joint along the way. That's a lot of injuries in ones season... How can anyone expect this guy to hold up for a season! https://www.paulkuharsky.com/news/marcus-mariota-was-more-injured-than-we-knew-in-2018 luvyablue256, Justafan, woolfolksunclesuncle, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NashvilleNinja Posted March 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 "Nah... Mariota is just a soft ass beta pussy that sucks and needs camp competition. It's the only logical reason they would have traded for Tannehill." Blackjack, helimachoptor, code, and 13 others 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AussieTitanFan08 Posted March 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Assuming that PK report is spot on you have to ask serious questions about the Titans medical staff that allowed him to keep playing with all those injuries. Bluth, Btowner, freakingeek, and 3 others 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfolksunclesuncle Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, Titans279 said: That's a lot of injuries in ones season... How can anyone expect this guy to hold up for a season! https://www.paulkuharsky.com/news/marcus-mariota-was-more-injured-than-we-knew-in-2018 I'd have quite a bit of sympathy for his situation if I had never watched Steve McNair. CreepingDeath, and Denali 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfolksunclesuncle Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Also, I don't buy into any injury prone shit, but, damn, this dude is brittle. If he's gonna be a brittle NFL QB, he better work on that pocket presence and drink a shitload of milk! 'Nator 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, woolfolksunclesuncle said: Also, I don't buy into any injury prone shit, but, damn, this dude is brittle. If he's gonna be a brittle NFL QB, he better work on that pocket presence and drink a shitload of milk! I just don't know how you can milk your way out of a freak ulnar nerve injury, a big fat guy landing on your neck, or a strained hip muscle. Maybe you can milk away a broken rib, but... idk. I hope he can overcome all of this shit. He's got more than enough ability to play great football, but no one will ever throw a game winner from the medical tent. Edited March 26, 2019 by NashvilleNinja freakingeek, woolfolksunclesuncle, Bluth, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, woolfolksunclesuncle said: I'd have quite a bit of sympathy for his situation if I had never watched Steve McNair. i was actually gonna say for someone to cue up that old graphic that showed Mcnairs injuries. I bet maiota has more and less missed time. Thrill, Highpockets84, and woolfolksunclesuncle 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: Assuming that PK report is spot on you have to ask serious questions about the Titans medical staff that allowed him to keep playing with all those injuries. I have said it in 2017 when they stuck Mariota back out there after the hammy in Houston, they are not concerned with his health and long term wellbeing. I have often mentioned it since, the Titans(teams actually) are not concerned about the well being of players. But I also understand that if you get paid 20M a season to play football, then you are expected to play football. Ryan Shazier was crippled. It is what it is. The problem is Marcus is a likable guy and we want to give him too much slack with excuses for his poor play. That's just not the way it works. All football players sacrifice their bodies and long term health for big money. If Ryan S. suits up for the Steelers he will be expected to make tackles. When people say Ryan was worthless laying out there on the field, you can't tell fans "can't you see he's hurt?" They will ask wtf is he doing out there? The Titans/JRob needed to have improved the backup QB position. Particularly after 2017 when they had Mariota playing hurt most of the season. Now, here's PK saying the same thing happened again in 2018. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Number9 said: I have said it in 2017 when they stuck Mariota back out there after the hammy in Houston, they are not concerned with his health and long term wellbeing. I have often mentioned it since, the Titans(teams actually) are not concerned about the well being of players. But I also understand that if you get paid 20M a season to play football, then you are expected to play football. Ryan Shazier was crippled. It is what it is. The problem is Marcus is a likable guy and we want to give him too much slack with excuses for his poor play. That's just not the way it works. All football players sacrifice their bodies and long term health for big money. If Ryan S. suits up for the Steelers he will be expected to make tackles. When people say Ryan was worthless laying out there on the field, you can't tell fans "can't you see he's hurt?" They will ask wtf is he doing out there? The Titans/JRob needed to have improved the backup QB position. Particularly after 2017 when they had Mariota playing hurt most of the season. Now, here's PK saying the same thing happened again in 2018. Arguing against bullshit narratives isn't giving him "slack with excuses". Justafan, Mythos27, and IowaOiler 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nine Posted March 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 I don't recall many people questioning Marcus' toughness. The guy is a warrior who has repeatedly shown his willingness to play hurt and play through pain; that's never been an issue. This article underscores his toughness and dedication, but it doesn't change the fact that he's had injuries every season that he couldn't play through, and that left him unable to take the field and/or execute plays. JRob's entire vision for the organization is focused on one goal: winning a Super Bowl. And as of today, his starting quarterback has finished three out of four seasons on the sidelines or IR....essentially a 75% failure rate. You have consider JRob's position: how can Marcus be trusted to win a Super Bowl when he can't even make it through the season? NashvilleNinja, NFLStudent, Smokes, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post titanruss Posted March 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, nine said: I don't recall many people questioning Marcus' toughness. The guy is a warrior who has repeatedly shown his willingness to play hurt and play through pain; that's never been an issue. This article underscores his toughness and dedication, but it doesn't change the fact that he's had injuries every season that he couldn't play through, and that left him unable to take the field and/or execute plays. JRob's entire vision for the organization is focused on one goal: winning a Super Bowl. And as of today, his starting quarterback has finished three out of four seasons on the sidelines or IR....essentially a 75% failure rate. You have consider JRob's position: how can Marcus be trusted to win a Super Bowl when he can't even make it through the season? you serious? half the defending of marcus is because idiots are questioning his toughness. the rest, i agree with. NFLStudent, Mythos27, bosss50, and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted March 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Staying healthy is a skill He's not good at that either SleepingTitan, Jonboy, woolfolksunclesuncle, and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, titanruss said: you serious? half the defending of marcus is because idiots are questioning his toughness. the rest, i agree with. Granted, there were always a few people who called him a pussy.....but I think most people have understood that Marcus' most significant injuries required more than just pain tolerance. In 2015-16-17, he missed games either because of significant structural damage (broken fibula) or to avoid causing significant structural damage (MCL sprains, hamstring strain, both have which could have led to fully torn muscles/ligaments). His nerve injuries this year weren't a matter of toughing it out or playing through pain. The injury in the season opener left his hand numb, weak, and unable to properly grip the ball....which rendered him unable to make basic throws. (First two passes attempted = 2 wobbly INTs). I suspect this injury might have been the most frustrating for Marcus, because toughness or pain tolerance had absolutely nothing to do with it; his fingers simply weren't responding to the brain's impulses. All Marcus could do was wait until the nerve healed up enough to restore control and strength to the fingers. It sounds like I'm making excuses; I'm really not. I fully believe his more serious injuries were 100% legitimate. The problem is that Marcus has more significant injuries than any other starting QB in the league. When a team's starting QB finishes 75% of his seasons on the sidelines, you have to wonder whether he truly gives the team an opportunity to win a championship.....or if he'll be sidelined for the most critical games of all. Number9, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 At this point toughness and playing through pain means nothing if he is either missing time or it's affecting his play. It's not like he plays like Tom Brady when he's healthy. He was supposedly the healthiest he'd even been going into the season and looked terrible in the preseason and 1st half of the Miami game. Produce this season or GTFO, the why is meaningless at this point. big2033, EagleEye, C_Train, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, nine said: Granted, there were always a few people who called him a pussy.....but I think most people have understood that Marcus' most significant injuries required more than just pain tolerance. In 2015-16-17, he missed games either because of significant structural damage (broken fibula) or to avoid causing significant structural damage (MCL sprains, hamstring strain, both have which could have led to fully torn muscles/ligaments). His nerve injuries this year weren't a matter of toughing it out or playing through pain. The injury in the season opener left his hand numb, weak, and unable to properly grip the ball....which rendered him unable to make basic throws. (First two passes attempted = 2 wobbly INTs). I suspect this injury might have been the most frustrating for Marcus, because toughness or pain tolerance had absolutely nothing to do with it; his fingers simply weren't responding to the brain's impulses. All Marcus could do was wait until the nerve healed up enough to restore control and strength to the fingers. It sounds like I'm making excuses; I'm really not. I fully believe his more serious injuries were 100% legitimate. The problem is that Marcus has more significant injuries than any other starting QB in the league. When a team's starting QB finishes 75% of his seasons on the sidelines, you have to wonder whether he truly gives the team an opportunity to win a championship.....or if he'll be sidelined for the most critical games of all. That list that shows the myriad of injuries he had to deal with.. we didn’t even know about most of them (is this what’s happening every year?) including a pulled and then completely torn away plantar facia tendon?... just goes to show a few things to me. ... The FO has to protect the QB in as many ways as possible. That includes better line, better blocking backs/ TE... AND not running a scheme that runs your QB often or puts him in position to get popped as the handoff man in a read-option. Who cares if his injuries that keep him out happen within the pocket as much as outside the pocket. The ones outside the pocket (and read options) are easily preventable. Spread the field out more so that blitzes are more visible and running lanes are larger when forced to bail. Whether you believe in injury prone or not.. these are steps you have to take. EVERY QBs that runs these offenses and runs more gets hurt significantly more. Marcus also has to take care of himself better. Get down like Brady/Mannings. Aaron Rodgers could have been the best ever if not for injuries because of his hustle and running. We appreciate it but it limits his time on the field and therefore limits wins for his franchise. So whether you believe in “injury prone” or not. There’s steps to be taken to reduce the chance of injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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