ctm Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, reo said: Rushing 4 from a 3-4 means blitzing with LB. Lawrence allows you to only rush 4 bc he takes up 2 blockers. Casey, Landry, Wake, +1 more Just depends on whether they want Wake rushing off the edge or the interior. No need to blitz an ILB, that is what he's trying to avoid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, ctm said: Just depends on whether they want Wake rushing off the edge or the interior. Interior? Wake is pretty clearly strictly an edge rusher Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ctm said: Casey, Landry, Wake, +1 more Just depends on whether they want Wake rushing off the edge or the interior. No need to blitz an ILB, that is what he's trying to avoid. Yeah, unless it's an obvious passing down situation that other guy is Lawrence who takes up 2 blockers in the middle freeing up Casey, Landry and Wake to be single blocked. Then you drop Landry and blitz Evans or drop Wake and blitz Evans or drop Landy and Wake and blitz Brown and Evans. While always only sending 4. That's the 3-4 where you can creatively send 4 guys to confuse blocking schemes. In a 5 man blocking scheme if the other team has a powerful nose that can single handedly drive the center back into the QB, that that player has to be double teamed bc pressure up the middle so the QB can step up is killer. That means Casey, Wake and Landry are single blocked. If you also have a guy that can consistently get edge pressure then that ope s up a great middle gap for an ILB blitz. Combine that with dropping the other OLB and shifting coverage to cover for the blitzing ILB and you only rush 4. Edited March 24, 2019 by reo Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, reo said: Yeah, unless it's an obvious passing down situation that other guy is Lawrence who takes up 2 blockers in the middle freeing up Casey, Landry and Wake to be single blocked. Then you drop Landry and blitz Evans or drop Wake and blitz Evans or drop Landy and Wake and blitz Brown and Evans. While always only sending 4. That's the 3-4 where you can creatively send 4 guys to confuse blocking schemes. In a 5 man blocking scheme if the other team has a powerful nose that can single handedly drive the center back into the QB, that that player has to be double teamed bc pressure up the middle so the QB can step up is killer. That means Casey, Wake and Landry are single blocked. If you also have a guy that can consistently get edge pressure then that ope s up a great middle gap for an ILB blitz. Combine that with dropping the other OLB and shifting coverage to cover for the blitzing ILB and you only rush 4. The whole point of this discussion is to avoid using an ILB and use 4 guys. Sure the team can use 5 if they wish, but Pees said he wanted to get to the point of using 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 So the QB or the line has to recognize the blitz and take that guard to roll him to block Evans. To keep 2 guys on Lawrence, the other guard assists then the tackle has to down block on Casey who has 1 guy on him. Or they leave Lawrence single blocked and he drives the pocket into the QB's face who now can't step up as Wake or Landry comes around the edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ctm said: The whole point of this discussion is to avoid using an ILB and use 4 guys. Sure the team can use 5 if they wish, but Pees said he wanted to get to the point of using 4. That is bringing 4 guys. You drop the other OLB and roll Brown over to cover for the blitzing Evans. That's the beauty of Pees 3-4. Creatively bringing 4 guys. Edited March 24, 2019 by reo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, reo said: That is bringing 4 guys. You drop the other OLB and roll Brown over to cover for the blitzing Evans. That's the beauty of Pees 3-4. Creatively bringing 4 guys. Name the 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, ctm said: Name the 4 I did. Reread what I said. I'm not walking through it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, reo said: I did. Reread what I said. I'm not walking through it again. You said use an ILB, that is what they are trying to avoid. Rush 4....drop 7 So the QB or the line has to recognize the blitz and take that guard to roll him to block Evans. Edited March 24, 2019 by ctm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, ctm said: You said use an ILB, that is what they are trying to avoid. Rush 4....drop 7 So the QB or the line has to recognize the blitz and take that guard to roll him to block Evans. If they use an ILB to blitz they can drop one of the OLB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, BeedoeLaw said: If they use an ILB to blitz they can drop one of the OLB. Of course they can mix it up. But the point is that Reo wants Lawrence on the field who isn't a pass rusher. That's why he keeps talking about using an ILB. Having Lawrence on the field means the team only drops 6 instead of 7, no matter who they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, ctm said: Of course they can mix it up. But the point is that Reo wants Lawrence on the field who isn't a pass rusher. That's why he keeps talking about using an ILB. Having Lawrence on the field means the team only drops 6 instead of 7, no matter who they are. But Lawrence is a pass rusher. If they try to block him with only the center, he is going to end up in the QBs lap. They will have to double team Lawrence. That's the point. You have 5 OL, if you have to double one that leaves everybody else 1 on 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, BeedoeLaw said: But Lawrence is a pass rusher. If they try to block him with only the center, he is going to end up in the QBs lap. They will have to double team Lawrence. That's the point. You have 5 OL, if you have to double one that leaves evevrybody else 1 on 1. He had 1.5 sacks last year. If he was an effective pass rusher, he'd be going much, much higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, ctm said: He had 1.5 sacks last year. If he was an effective pass rusher, he'd be going much, much higher. His contribution will not be sacks. His contribution will be that he cannot be blocked by one player which frees up Casey and everyone else. He has the shortest path to the QB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted March 24, 2019 Report Share Posted March 24, 2019 @ctm There is a reason why all 4 clemson DL will be gone by the 2nd round. I guarantee you that Dexter Lawrence was rarely blocke by 1 OL. Justafan, and SleepingTitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.