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1 minute ago, reo said:

Rushing 4 from a 3-4 means blitzing with LB. Lawrence allows you to only rush 4 bc he takes up 2 blockers.

Casey, Landry, Wake, +1 more

 

Just depends on whether they want Wake rushing off the edge or the interior.

 

No need to blitz an ILB, that is what he's trying to avoid.

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Would rather draft Christian Slater or Dominique Wilkins.....

I'm not a big fan of his. I think he has peaked as a prospect. 

I'm a bigger fan of guys after the first round than Wilkins. Id draft Saunders before I would Wilkins

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30 minutes ago, ctm said:

Casey, Landry, Wake, +1 more

 

Just depends on whether they want Wake rushing off the edge or the interior.

 

No need to blitz an ILB, that is what he's trying to avoid.

Yeah, unless it's an obvious passing down situation that other guy is Lawrence who takes up 2 blockers in the middle freeing up Casey, Landry and Wake to be single blocked. Then you drop Landry and blitz Evans or drop Wake and blitz Evans or drop Landy and Wake and blitz Brown and Evans. While always only sending 4.

 

That's the 3-4 where you can creatively send 4 guys to confuse blocking schemes. 

 

In a 5 man blocking scheme if the other team has a powerful nose that can single handedly drive the center back into the QB, that that player has to be double teamed bc pressure up the middle so the QB can step up is killer.

 

That means Casey, Wake and Landry are single blocked. If you also have a guy that can consistently get edge pressure then that ope s up a great middle gap for an ILB blitz. Combine that with dropping the other OLB and shifting coverage to cover for the blitzing ILB and you only rush 4.

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20 minutes ago, reo said:

Yeah, unless it's an obvious passing down situation that other guy is Lawrence who takes up 2 blockers in the middle freeing up Casey, Landry and Wake to be single blocked. Then you drop Landry and blitz Evans or drop Wake and blitz Evans or drop Landy and Wake and blitz Brown and Evans. While always only sending 4.

 

That's the 3-4 where you can creatively send 4 guys to confuse blocking schemes. 

 

In a 5 man blocking scheme if the other team has a powerful nose that can single handedly drive the center back into the QB, that that player has to be double teamed bc pressure up the middle so the QB can step up is killer.

 

That means Casey, Wake and Landry are single blocked. If you also have a guy that can consistently get edge pressure then that ope s up a great middle gap for an ILB blitz. Combine that with dropping the other OLB and shifting coverage to cover for the blitzing ILB and you only rush 4.

The whole point of this discussion is to avoid using an ILB and use 4 guys.  Sure the team can use 5 if they wish, but Pees said he wanted to get to the point of using 4. 

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So the QB or the line has to recognize the blitz and take that guard to roll him to block Evans. To keep 2 guys on Lawrence, the other guard assists then the tackle has to down block on Casey who has 1 guy on him. Or they leave Lawrence single blocked and he drives the pocket into the QB's face who now can't step up as Wake or Landry comes around the edge.

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2 minutes ago, ctm said:

The whole point of this discussion is to avoid using an ILB and use 4 guys.  Sure the team can use 5 if they wish, but Pees said he wanted to get to the point of using 4. 

That is bringing 4 guys. You drop the other OLB and roll Brown over to cover for the blitzing Evans. 

 

That's the beauty of Pees 3-4. Creatively bringing 4 guys.

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6 minutes ago, reo said:

That is bringing 4 guys. You drop the other OLB and roll Brown over to cover for the blitzing Evans. 

 

That's the beauty of Pees 3-4. Creatively bringing 4 guys.

Name the 4

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26 minutes ago, reo said:

I did. Reread what I said. I'm not walking through it again.

You said use an ILB, that is what they are trying to avoid.  Rush 4....drop 7

 

So the QB or the line has to recognize the blitz and take that guard to roll him to block Evans.

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15 minutes ago, ctm said:

You said use an ILB, that is what they are trying to avoid.  Rush 4....drop 7

 

So the QB or the line has to recognize the blitz and take that guard to roll him to block Evans.

If they use an ILB to blitz they can drop one of the OLB. 

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3 minutes ago, BeedoeLaw said:

If they use an ILB to blitz they can drop one of the OLB. 

Of course they can mix it up.  But the point is that Reo wants Lawrence on the field who isn't a pass rusher.  That's why he keeps talking about using an ILB.    Having Lawrence on the field means the team only drops 6 instead of 7, no matter who they are.

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1 minute ago, ctm said:

Of course they can mix it up.  But the point is that Reo wants Lawrence on the field who isn't a pass rusher.  That's why he keeps talking about using an ILB.    Having Lawrence on the field means the team only drops 6 instead of 7, no matter who they are.

But Lawrence is a pass rusher. If they try to block him with only the center, he is going to end up in the QBs lap. They will have to double team Lawrence. That's the point. You have 5 OL, if you have to double one that leaves everybody else 1 on 1.

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3 minutes ago, BeedoeLaw said:

But Lawrence is a pass rusher. If they try to block him with only the center, he is going to end up in the QBs lap. They will have to double team Lawrence. That's the point. You have 5 OL, if you have to double one that leaves evevrybody else 1 on 1.

He had 1.5 sacks last year.  If he was an effective pass rusher, he'd be going much, much higher.

 

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6 minutes ago, ctm said:

He had 1.5 sacks last year.  If he was an effective pass rusher, he'd be going much, much higher.

 

His contribution will not be sacks. His contribution will be that he cannot be blocked by one player which frees up Casey and everyone else. He has the shortest path to the QB. 

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