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6 minutes ago, ben4titans said:

Poor Jamal.

 

27 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

"There wasn't collusion.

 

There was just a documented, coordinated effort through many layers of the campaign, rising up to the campaign chairman and including the President's own family (not to mention the president himself calling for it publicly) to work with Russia to obtain information and facilitate its timed release, to cover up those efforts and actively lie and perjure about those actions and to illegally and privately assure Russian counterparts that sanctions and such would be set aside ... all while trying to negotiate large construction projects for significant personal financial gain (while lying about not negotiating such projects) ... then to alter the GOP stance on Russia to be more favorable, to actively denigrate and malign allies and align with Russia on major initiatives, to stymy and delay sanctions that were forced through against Trump's will, to claim the Justice Dept and intelligence agencies are lying, corrupt and just plain wrong while Putin is right and to work to erode all public confidence in independent journalism that might report all the above actions.

 

That's all.

 

Well, that and secret coordination with parties being investigated. And a personal flat refusal to be interviewed on the record about any of the above. And to fire anyone investigating it. And then replace them with individuals who have publicly committed to an ending or illegitimacy of the investigation ... an investigation that coincidentally wound down quite quickly and then ended shortly after such appointments were made.

 

But that's it.

 

Totally vindicated."

 

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1 minute ago, ben4titans said:

"There wasn't collusion.

 

There was just a documented, coordinated effort through many layers of the campaign, rising up to the campaign chairman and including the President's own family (not to mention the president himself calling for it publicly) to work with Russia to obtain information and facilitate its timed release, to cover up those efforts and actively lie and perjure about those actions and to illegally and privately assure Russian counterparts that sanctions and such would be set aside ... all while trying to negotiate large construction projects for significant personal financial gain (while lying about not negotiating such projects) ... then to alter the GOP stance on Russia to be more favorable, to actively denigrate and malign allies and align with Russia on major initiatives, to stymy and delay sanctions that were forced through against Trump's will, to claim the Justice Dept and intelligence agencies are lying, corrupt and just plain wrong while Putin is right and to work to erode all public confidence in independent journalism that might report all the above actions.

 

That's all.

 

Well, that and secret coordination with parties being investigated. And a personal flat refusal to be interviewed on the record about any of the above. And to fire anyone investigating it. And then replace them with individuals who have publicly committed to an ending or illegitimacy of the investigation ... an investigation that coincidentally wound down quite quickly and then ended shortly after such appointments were made.

 

But that's it.

 

Totally vindicated."

 

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18 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Barr has to release the full report

No he doesn't. Regardless its unlikely Mueller believes a sitting president can be indicted which means Trump is likely off the hook directly. I've said for a year dems would be disappointed with the report. It's better to focus on other issues.

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Just now, oldschool said:

No he doesn't. Regardless its unlikely Mueller believes a sitting president can be indicted which means Trump is likely off the hook directly. I've said for a year dems would be disappointed with the report. It's better to focus on other issues.

I agree but the public pressure to release the report will be high from both sides.  I think it comes out.  

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13 minutes ago, oldschool said:

No he doesn't. Regardless its unlikely Mueller believes a sitting president can be indicted which means Trump is likely off the hook directly. I've said for a year dems would be disappointed with the report. It's better to focus on other issues.

I made a thread a month or so ago stating the same thing.  My worry was this would drag out later and later and the later it came out, the more helpful it would be to Trump's reelection.  For what the report is, this is the best timing. 

 

Also, there might be strings of investigation stemming from it, and those will be less controlled, from the policy of not indicting a President, because they will deal with people around the President, not the President.  

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1 hour ago, begooode said:

Seems you’re the one with preconceived conclusions. 

The dems already have numerous hearings scheduled.  I'm only pointing out what they have stated.  So who has preconceived notions?

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16 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

He doesn't have to technically but for all parties he needs to 

Legally the executive branch has a lot of power here. Without bipartisan support to release it I expect we'll get a watered down version of it.

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8 minutes ago, HOTT said:

The dems already have numerous hearings scheduled.  I'm only pointing out what they have stated.  So who has preconceived notions?

Go back into retirement and stop embarassing yourself. 

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