Mariota Film from 2018

[BudsOilers]

11 hours ago, No1TitansFan said:

Exactly, if he's as lost of a cause as some are making him out to be, then he would have been released and we would be looking to draft a rookie and use Tanny as a stopgap. JRob is not paying him $20 million this year because he thinks he's a good kid.

His 5th year was guaranteed for injury to begin with before becoming fully guaranteed on the 13th.  I'm not sure Mariota could pass a physical so it really takes the economic savings out of the mix.

 

On paper, the made the QB group stronger with Tannehill but let's not forget he has his own consistency and durability issues.  He missed all of 2017 and 5 games last year.  Why just go from one Mariota to another with no legit backup?

 

Some disagree but there is some pressure on Robinson and to a lesser extent Vrabel.  Robinson won a power play with AAS and canned Mularkey after a playoff season and one playoff win.  He publicly stated that wasn't good enough.  Granted, they made it in a year where Indy played all year without Luck and Watson went down mid-year in Houston but this is a results business.

 

Miss the playoffs again and it's only natural that AAS would be more questioning of the results.

[titanruss]

8 hours ago, BudAdams said:

His 5th year was guaranteed for injury to begin with before becoming fully guaranteed on the 13th.  I'm not sure Mariota could pass a physical so it really takes the economic savings out of the mix.

 

On paper, the made the QB group stronger with Tannehill but let's not forget he has his own consistency and durability issues.  He missed all of 2017 and 5 games last year.  Why just go from one Mariota to another with no legit backup?

 

Some disagree but there is some pressure on Robinson and to a lesser extent Vrabel.  Robinson won a power play with AAS and canned Mularkey after a playoff season and one playoff win.  He publicly stated that wasn't good enough.  Granted, they made it in a year where Indy played all year without Luck and Watson went down mid-year in Houston but this is a results business.

 

Miss the playoffs again and it's only natural that AAS would be more questioning of the results.

AAS is close to questioning JROB over the titans not making the playoffs last year when the QB was injured, we had a coaching change, Conklin, Delanie, and Matthews were basically no shows all year, and the Strength of schedule was significantly harder than the previous year. 

 

If we miss this year with everyone healthy... yeah you question a bit. But if mariota is hurt and we finish 9-7 again... she’s not dumb enough to make a big deal out of it 

 

 

[AussieTitanFan08]

Part of an interview with Mariota that will air tonight in Hawaii.

 

https://www.khon2.com/sports/local-sports/mariota-says-there-s-no-added-pressure-entering-final-year-of-titans-contract/1876221376

[TitanDuckFan]

He looks like he has gained a few pounds.

[Huston]

 

[headhunter]

Just now, Huston said:

 

11 TDs

[Huston]

5 minutes ago, headhunter said:

11 TDs

 

[big2033]

29 minutes ago, Huston said:

 

Seriously though what does this mean?

 

He's had as much pressure as other QBs but they did 10 times more with it.

 

OR

 

Are all these QBs the most statuesque in the pocket and thus take on more pressure. 

 

OR

 

Is Mariota's percentage so good because he ONLY passes when someone is wide open and guys like Brees let it rip?

 

OR 

 

Do all these QBs have bad Olines and yet somehow the other STILL make you pay?

 

OR

 

Unlike the others does Mariota has the perfect marriage of bad oline, bad OC, too much pressure and nobody open when he does have pressure.

Edited March 26, 2019 by big2033

[Huston]

 

What do you think it means

[titanruss]

4 hours ago, big2033 said:

Seriously though what does this mean?

 

He's had as much pressure as other QBs but they did 10 times more with it.

 

OR

 

Are all these QBs the most statuesque in the pocket and thus take on more pressure. 

 

OR

 

Is Mariota's percentage so good because he ONLY passes when someone is wide open and guys like Brees let it rip?

 

OR 

 

Do all these QBs have bad Olines and yet somehow the other STILL make you pay?

 

OR

 

Unlike the others does Mariota has the perfect marriage of bad oline, bad OC, too much pressure and nobody open when he does have pressure.

pretty sure it means he's #3 in adjusted completion % bub. 

 

 

[StephenIsLegend]

4 hours ago, headhunter said:

11 TDs

Once again, thank you for your absolutely riveting contribution to the board today. 

[TitanDuckFan]

16 minutes ago, JoelinBellevue said:

Mariota has left a trail of disaster in his wake. Look at the heads that have rolled since he was drafted because they couldn't justify the high pick. We fire coaches, dump players, restructure offenses all in Hope's of finding something magical where he can produce. We spend high draft picks on O line or sign them, then try to convert them to a new scheme which failed miserably. This is sheer madness. Chicago did the same thing with Cutler. Finally they had to admit he just wasn't that good. Hopefully this team isn't screwed to the point that a better QB can't come in and win. 

That must be why Hunter, Wright, Johnson, DGB, Decker, Amaro, Douglas, Andrews, McCluster, Fasano, Supernaw, Stevens, Mariani, McBride, Brinkly, Turzilli and Matthews are all starting players elsewhere, and doing so well.

 

Because they were so great and Mariota just sucked.

 

 

Oh wait,...

[TitanDuckFan]

21 minutes ago, JoelinBellevue said:

Other teams discard players every year. Sometimes a very good QB can make average look better. Not the case here. If he cant separate to a new zip code he doesn't see the ball. I suppose you will ignore the rest of my post and only cite narratives that support your agenda.

So why isn't some other team's "very good QB" making all those "average" guys "look better" now?  Could it be they weren't even average, they just sucked and the Titans were trying to get by on the cheap?

I think so.  If they had been at least average, they'd be playing elsewhere and some would be starters.

They weren't.  They sucked.  We know this because most aren't even playing and zero are starting ANYWHERE.

 

Delanie isn't the failure those others were. 

Matthews had his best years in N'ville with Mariota throwing the passes.  Both years were better than he ever had at MIA.  Nobody dumped him, he had his own problems and left of his own accord.

Dion Lewis had a better year receiving from Marcus than he did with Brady the year before.

Pruitt was a practice squad player before he was a Titan.

Davis increased his yards 138% and almost tripled his first downs on less than twice as many receptions.  He was barely a 2nd year player in 2018 and became the Titans' #1 WR WHILE LEARNING A NEW SYSTEM!

 

Is Mularkey still a head coach?

Whiz? 

Is Robiskie still an OC?  Hell, he's not even a receiver's coach anymore.  If they were good at the positions they held in N'ville, they'd have been snatched up by another GM for those same positions.  Instead, they took demotions and went back to work doing something else.  Something less than they did in TN.

 

I'm convinced you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.  You're just flat out wrong.

Again.

 

Own it.

[TerryBoats]

22 minutes ago, TitanDuckFan said:

So why isn't some other team's "very good QB" making all those "average" guys "look better" now?  Could it be they weren't even average, they just sucked and the Titans were trying to get by on the cheap?

I think so.  If they had been at least average, they'd be playing elsewhere and some would be starters.

They weren't.  They sucked.  We know this because most aren't even playing and zero are starting ANYWHERE.

 

Delanie isn't the failure those others were. 

Matthews had his best years in N'ville with Mariota throwing the passes.  Both years were better than he ever had at MIA.  Nobody dumped him, he had his own problems and left of his own accord.

Dion Lewis had a better year receiving from Marcus than he did with Brady the year before.

Pruitt was a practice squad player before he was a Titan.

Davis increased his yards 138% and almost tripled his first downs on less than twice as many receptions.  He was barely a 2nd year player in 2018 and became the Titans' #1 WR WHILE LEARNING A NEW SYSTEM!

 

Is Mularkey still a head coach?

Whiz? 

Is Robiskie still an OC?  Hell, he's not even a receiver's coach anymore.  If they were good at the positions they held in N'ville, they'd have been snatched up by another GM for those same positions.  Instead, they took demotions and went back to work doing something else.  Something less than they did in TN.

 

I'm convinced you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.  You're just flat out wrong.

Again.

 

Own it.

Davis deserves a lot more credit for his success than Mariota.  He averaged 3.1 yards of separation per target.  And he's a 6'3, long target.  How difficult is it to fit the ball in those Windows?

 

Matthews had slightly more YPG the year before he arrived here.  And Walker had his second most productive season prior to Mariota, with trash QBs.

 

Please show us who he actually elevated.  

[TitanDuckFan]

56 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

Davis deserves a lot more credit for his success than Mariota.  He averaged 3.1 yards of separation per target.  And he's a 6'3, long target.  How difficult is it to fit the ball in those Windows?

 

Matthews had slightly more YPG the year before he arrived here.  And Walker had his second most productive season prior to Mariota, with trash QBs.

 

Please show us who he actually elevated.  

He elevated every pass catcher from 2017 to 2018 except Henry, most by a good margin when you look at the number of 1st downs, yards and receptions combined.

Davis didn't even have a full season of experience when 2018 started.

Tajae missed 2017, so it was his 2nd year.

Second year players like Taywan and Jonnu had better years in '18 than in '17 even though they played 3 fewer games in '18.  Their YPG and first downs were up considerably.  Jonnu doubled his.

And all of them were learning a new system they had no clue about when camp started.

 

Orlovsky warned fans it would take half a season or more before the players got comfortable with it.  Despite all of that and the injuries, and the O-Line struggling with the Zone Scheme conversion, they all improved measurably.

 

So quitcher snivelin'.