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MadMax   
1 hour ago, Downtown said:

And of course this thread just exists (with many others) of proof on the internet that @Rolltide is nothing more than a child-sized-shit-bag.

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Rolltide   

Every democrat president is for some sort of domestic peace corp program. Clinton and Obama were for it. It was not until people told Beto what a moronic idea he had that he said it might not have to be mandatory. 

 

I though the idea would be so incredibly moronic that you guys would assume that Trump came up with it. 

 

Starkiller agreed with it and even defined it as uniquely liberal. I guess that makes sense the democrats were the party of slavery. 

 

 

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Rolltide   

People like Beto and Starkiller think that the government owns us and can do what they want with us and take whatever it wishes from us. Too bad people like me will not put up with that shit. 

 

I have had these discussions with Starkiller before he thinks that freedom is something the government allows you to have not something that we have a right to. It is a totally authoritarian attitude so it is amazing that he would make such an ignorant comment as to accuse somebody else of being an authoritarian. I'll just assume he does not even know the meaning of that word. 

 

 

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I guess you must think that some god grants people their freedom. Because if it isn’t god then it must be government.

 

People form the government. That government makes the rules. Thus, the people rule the people. At least, that’s the idea.

 

Libertarians seem to think they can live in a world where there are no rules. Well if you can point me towards an example of functional “libertarian” country then go ahead...

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Rolltide   
1 hour ago, Starkiller said:

I guess you must think that some god grants people their freedom. Because if it isn’t god then it must be government.

 

People form the government. That government makes the rules. Thus, the people rule the people. At least, that’s the idea.

 

Libertarians seem to think they can live in a world where there are no rules. Well if you can point me towards an example of functional “libertarian” country then go ahead...

You sound like a conservative talking about rules. You cannot even discern the difference between a libertine and a libertarian. Libertines believe in a world without rules knucklehead. 

 

Ayn Rand wrote Anthem about people like you. Thoreau wrote civil obedience for people like you.  Thomas Paine wrote the rights of man because of people like you. 

 

You are the opposite of a liberal and do not even understand why. Based on your theory of government a majority could oppress a minority and that would be just. They make the rules right? 

 

 

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Just now, Rolltide said:

You sound like a conservative talking about rules. You cannot even discern the difference between a libertine and a libertarian. Libertines believe in a world without rules knucklehead. 

 

Ayn Rand wrote Anthem about people like you. Thoreau wrote civil obedience for people like you.  Thomas Paine wrote the rights of man because of people like you. 

 

You are the opposite of a liberal and do not even understand why. Based on your theory of government a majority could oppress a minority and that would be just. They make the rules right. 

Our government has allowed the oppression of a minority by the majority. On numerous occasions...

 

That doesn’t change the fact that the design of our democratically elected government is for the people to choose the government and that government to rule the people. And if the people aren’t happy with that rule they change the government. 

 

This isn't all that complicated.

 

And I’m still waiting for you to identify a successful libertarian country you would like to emulate...

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Rolltide   
3 hours ago, Starkiller said:

Our government has allowed the oppression of a minority by the majority. On numerous occasions...

 

That doesn’t change the fact that the design of our democratically elected government is for the people to choose the government and that government to rule the people. And if the people aren’t happy with that rule they change the government. 

 

This isn't all that complicated.

 

And I’m still waiting for you to identify a successful libertarian country you would like to emulate...

There is never going to be a pure libertarian country. New Zealand would probably be the closest. How about you naming a socialist country anybody would want to live in? 

 

Here is the heritage ranking of counties for economic freedom. Any poor countries in the top 25? Cuba is 178 and North Korea is 180. That is what you want. 

 

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

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15 minutes ago, Rolltide said:

There is never going to be a pure libertarian country. New Zealand would probably be the closest. How about you naming a socialist country anybody would want to live in? 

 

Here is the heritage ranking of counties for economic freedom. Any poor countries in the top 25? Cuba is 178 and North Korea is 180. That is what you want. 

 

https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

By the argument of most conservatives, America is apparently already socialist what with Medicare and income taxes and public funding for welfare and such...

 

But I could just as easily name Canada, Japan, Israel, and most of Europe. These are all countries with government programs and tax rates that conservatives refer to as socialist.

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Rolltide   
15 hours ago, Starkiller said:

By the argument of most conservatives, America is apparently already socialist what with Medicare and income taxes and public funding for welfare and such...

 

But I could just as easily name Canada, Japan, Israel, and most of Europe. These are all countries with government programs and tax rates that conservatives refer to as socialist.

Most of those countries have lower corporate tax rates than we have and some have lower capital gains taxes as well. How many of those countries have an entire victim class with their hand out expecting free shit like we do?

 

You libtards are not just wanting a more managed economy. You want to destroy any speech that does not agree with you. 

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16 minutes ago, Rolltide said:

Most of those countries have lower corporate tax rates than we have and some have lower capital gains taxes as well.

Even before Trump, US companies had the same effective tax rate as “socialist” UK with their universal healthcare. And lower than Japan. The fact is, our effective corporate tax rate was competitive internationally.

 

 

16 minutes ago, Rolltide said:

How many of those countries have an entire victim class with their hand out expecting free shit like we do?

They all have more generous welfare systems than America does. 

 

But I assume by victim class you mean people wanting everything in life that the government does without paying taxes...

 

 

16 minutes ago, Rolltide said:

You libtards are not just wanting a more managed economy. You want to destroy any speech that does not agree with you. 

If liberals didn’t believe in free speech that didn’t agree with ours, you would be banned here.

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-national-service-program-1277274

 

Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg on Monday night advocated a form of national public service for all young adults as a way to create unity among Americans.

 

"We really want to talk about the threat to social cohesion that helps characterize this presidency but also just this era," the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. "One thing we could do that would change that would be to make it, if not legally obligatory, but certainly a social norm that anybody after they're 18 spends a year in national service."

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On 3/19/2019 at 7:24 AM, IsntLifeFunny said:

Oh the irony of a silver spoon billionaire who used five deferments to get out of service to our country would promote such an idea. 

 

On 3/19/2019 at 8:02 AM, IsntLifeFunny said:

Figures you would do some shit like start a misleading thread. 

Says the first guy to comment on the thread.

 

LOL

Ya can't make this shit up folks.

 

Hey ILF, your gullibility is showing.

Hook, line and sinker.

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5 hours ago, TitanDuckFan said:

 

Says the first guy to comment on the thread.

 

LOL

Ya can't make this shit up folks.

 

Hey ILF, your gullibility is showing.

Hook, line and sinker.

Or when someone creates a topic I expect them to not be outright trolling with no cause. I knew he was bullshitting. It says more about that bumpkin in the OP than it does me that I gave him the benefit of the doubt. 

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Rolltide   

I did not just start this thread to trick some libtards. I thought Beto, Bozo's idea was an abomination and wanted to talk about it and how insanely authoritarian libtards are. People are just objects to them. That is what Henry David Thoreau was arguing against in civil disobedience. the government does not own you, you are not born in service to it. They serve us!

 

To my dismay Starkiller loves Bozo's idiot idea. 

 

Starkiller likes to use that word authoritarian a lot. In his mind an authoritarian is like a strict teacher or your dad telling you to stop fucking the cat's ass. Trump is an authoritarian because he is big bold, talks tough and tries to win arguments. No an authoritarian is somebody who wants to tell you how to live your fucking life. An authoritarian wants to take more of your earnings and assets and an authoritarian wants to shove their religion down your throat. 

 

Trump is less of an authoritarian than any democrat in Washington. 

 

 

 

 

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