socaltitan Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Just now, ctm said: He's not coming here for #4 money. He will get a better offer elsewhere. But if he does come here, it doesn't mean that Taylor's speed can't be used in some situations and packages, only that his snaps will be reduced. Which guy do you want to be throwing the ball to in 3rd and 9? I'll take Nelson. He's more dependable. Our WR are going to be super slow if he's one of the top 3. His speed is gone. Edited March 19, 2019 by socaltitan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, socaltitan said: Our WR are going to be super slow if he's one of the top 3. His speed is gone. It not a question of whether you want Nelson or Taylor. It's a question of whether you want both. There is a place and time for both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, socaltitan said: We're in serious trouble if he's the #2 Probably, but the same is true if it’s Taylor... reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonboy Posted March 19, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I really wish we'd draft a pure speed guy. Don't even care if he's a one trick pony. We've got Davis, Delanie and Humphries to move the chains. Need that deep threat who can stretch the field. Justafan, NashvilleNinja, BeedoeLaw, and 5 others 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Nelson knows how to get open and catch the ball. I'll take that over a one trick pony all day. Taylor can win the deep route even if he's not Tyreek Hill. I still hope they draft a speed guy in the draft but a solid #2 sure would give them a lot of options. The upgrade from Taylor to Nelson can't be overstated IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 8 hours ago, socaltitan said: He was great in the AFC Champ game a few years ago. Other than that he's largely been a scrub A guy who's career high is 41 catches and 680 yards is not a baller I don't really care about the stats. He gets open and catches the ball. We need guys who can do that. Btw, that stat line you just posted equals out to 16.6 ypc... Like I said, he makes more big plays than people think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLanceALot Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Jonboy said: I really wish we'd draft a pure speed guy. Don't even care if he's a one trick pony. We've got Davis, Delanie and Humphries to move the chains. Need that deep threat who can stretch the field. I’d love to have Marquise Brown SARGO24, and Mythos27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Jonboy said: I really wish we'd draft a pure speed guy. Don't even care if he's a one trick pony. We've got Davis, Delanie and Humphries to move the chains. Need that deep threat who can stretch the field. Andy Isabella plz.. Tutored by randy moss. Fast as hell. Hope the rankings are accurate as Most expect him to go late 3rd -5th. Because he’s under 6 ft and white. .. But he could go much earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Nelson is going to be 34 when the season starts, he is/was a big play speed WR. His yards per reception has dropped a lot the last two seasons. I really don't see how he's going to help the passing game much aside from being veteran depth like Douglas or Andre Johnson. If they are going to get big plays down field off of the power running game and play action it's more likely to come from Taylor or a rookie draft pick. prometheus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 17 hours ago, titanruss said: You people saying we need a WR to stretch the field are hilarious. Teams stack the box against us, and it ain't because of our WRs. Taylor actually had the 3rd most cushion of any WR in the league. Until our QB actually attempts to get the ball downfield on anything other than PA, it doesn't matter who you put out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) don't you think we will be spreading the field sideline to sideline the way the offense is setting up?? with the blocking scheme and Henry, the Edge players and LB's will have to be positioned to stop the run nearly every play..I suspect there will be some big holes over the middle from 5-15 yards..those are throws that MM is very good at.. if Taylor is on the field he will get single coverage to start with , until he and MM prove the need for a deep safety .. Edited March 19, 2019 by Nash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, abc2330 said: You people saying we need a WR to stretch the field are hilarious. Teams stack the box against us, and it ain't because of our WRs. Taylor actually had the 3rd most cushion of any WR in the league. Until our QB actually attempts to get the ball downfield on anything other than PA, it doesn't matter who you put out there. Real deep threats eat up a DBs cushion and beat them vertically anyways. Guys like Desean Jackson in his prime make DBs' cushions irrelevant. We haven't seen that because we've never had a true deep threat WR. Edited March 19, 2019 by Mythos27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Real deep threats eat up a DBs cushion and beat them vertically anyways. Guys like Desean Jackson in his prime make DBs' cushions irrelevant. We haven't seen that because we've never had a true deep threat WR. How many guys like Jackson exist in the league? There have been many, many offenses who have excelled without someone like him, and many receivers who have excelled in every part of the field without that speed. No matter who you have out there, it's up to the QB deliver the ball to them, and that's where the problem lies. I can hardly recall Mariota taking a single deep shot on anything other than PA.there were several occasions last year when he had the opportunity, butt didn't take /see it Edited March 19, 2019 by abc2330 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyeddie Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Nelson is going to be 34 when the season starts, he is/was a big play speed WR. His yards per reception has dropped a lot the last two seasons. I really don't see how he's going to help the passing game much aside from being veteran depth like Douglas or Andre Johnson. If they are going to get big plays down field off of the power running game and play action it's more likely to come from Taylor or a rookie draft pick. I think that is what they see him as...veteran depth..my understanding is he can play all the positions if need be. It doesn't matter what order you put the receivers in....the top 4 are all gonna play and most likely one of them...maybe more are gonna get dinged up at some point during the season. With 2 recievers on rookie deals we can probably afford to overpay him a bit right now. I think that Douglas and Johnson were here to kinda fill the same role. I'm sure they hope that Nelson will do that but better than they did. Johnson was a disappointment but Douglas wasn't terrible. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzyeddie Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Davis is the #1 and you gotta assume you are gonna keep him around for a while and sign him to a second deal. Humphries is young and here for 4 years if we want him. If you can get a couple years out of a guy like Nelson than we have the flexibility to draft another WR to compete with Taylor. Not a guy early in the draft necessarily but maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder that needs a little developing. That give Taylor a chance to step up his game and if not than than your next guy is there and still on a rookie deal. IMO its about not only what Nelson can do as a player on the field but also how it sets up the WR room for the future and how you can handle the position in the draft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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