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1 hour ago, Starkiller said:

 

She defeated an incumbent, moderate Republican in her very 1st election. Then she won by a wide margin in her re-election. 

 

This isn't really an issue.

 

Well yeah - in Massachusetts. 

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1 hour ago, tgo said:

 

Well yeah - in Massachusetts. 

 

...where they have had exactly 1 Democratic governor since 1990 (vs 5 Republicans). Massachusetts is way less blue than people think.

 

As I said, Warren in her first campaign ever, defeated a pretty popular Republican incumbent for the Senate. Then she won her re-election bid in a romp. She is 2-0 in elections and started at pretty much the highest level available. Hard to beat that. 

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4 hours ago, Starkiller said:

 

She defeated an incumbent, moderate Republican in her very 1st election. Then she won by a wide margin in her re-election. 

 

This isn't really an issue.

 

I feel confident that the 20K people who showed up to see her in Washington Square park were all Wall St. types. /s

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32 minutes ago, ctm said:

 

I feel confident that the 20K people who showed up to see her in Washington Square park were all Wall St. types. /s

 

They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob. Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred.

 

- FDR

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35 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

I kinda like Warren but I'm not convinced that voters will come out for a North Eastern white liberal woman.

 

All they need is a competent argument. People tend to elect the more charismatic candidate in the general, it’s less about policy. Guys like Kerry and Dukakis could have won if they weren’t so monotone and robotic. Warren doesn’t have that problem.

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1 hour ago, Starkiller said:

 

All they need is a competent argument. People tend to elect the more charismatic candidate in the general, it’s less about policy. Guys like Kerry and Dukakis could have won if they weren’t so monotone and robotic. Warren doesn’t have that problem.

She can be shrill but has seemed better recently.  Charisma was her problem for a bit 

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11 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

She can be shrill but has seemed better recently.  Charisma was her problem for a bit 

 

She isn’t as charismatic as someone like Booker, but I’d put her charisma well ahead of Biden or Bernie. I'd also, more importantly, put her level of charisma ahead of Hillary's.

 

Separately, she speaks more like a Midwesterner, which I think will benefit her in a campaign. She grew up in Oklahoma and you can hear it sometimes and it won’t come off as inauthentic. That’s the kind of thing that put people more at ease with a guy like Bill Clinton.

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6 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

 

She isn’t as charismatic as someone like Booker, but I’d put her charisma well ahead of Biden or Bernie. I'd also, more importantly, put her level of charisma ahead of Hillary's.

 

Separately, she speaks more like a Midwesterner, which I think will benefit her in a campaign. She grew up in Oklahoma and you can hear it sometimes and it won’t come off as inauthentic. That’s the kind of thing that put people more at ease with a guy like Bill Clinton.

Biden has always had a great deal of charisma/ charm. His age is muting it. 

 

Warren played the angry note too much for quite awhile and comes off much better when she tones it down.

 

Hillary just had too much baggage. 

 

Booker comes across hokey more than charismatic. 

 

Pete’s got charisma but other limitations.

 

Harris can show some sometimes but it always comes across forced and insincere (very Hillary like tbh) 

 

Just not a great pool of candidates where charisma is concerned 

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