NashvilleNinja Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Definitely. While RG3 had literally no sense on when or how to avoid getting hit, I actually think Mariota does. Mariota's problem is that every once in a while something comes over him and he decides he's gonna be the hero and either makes a block he shouldn't be attempting or tries to get that extra yard when he should already be sliding. Prime example is that hit on Henry's run vs the Giants. I loved it and it hypes the team up to see their QB going hard out there but if he'd dislocated his shoulder or something it would just look stupid. He knows better, he just makes some bad decisions sometimes. I agree it needs to stop. It happens more frequently when you've had it inadvertently ingrained into your psyche not to trust what's happening with the guys you're relying on to make plays for you. Your competitive instincts have been misinformed and now they're acting on your behalf. The ones who expect Mariota to be the ultimate Gary Stu regardless of circumstances will dismiss that as excuse making, but no one is suggesting that it's something that he shouldn't overcome. He'll eventually have to overcome it or it'll solidify flaws in his game or even aid in his ultimate failure. Mariota's time in the NFL has been anything but typical. Most NFL starting quarterbacks will go through multiple offensive coordinators over the course of their careers, but Mariota has been through more regime changes at head coach and coordinator in soon-to-be 5 seasons than most starting QBs go through in an entire career. The expectation that he look like Superman throughout all of that and not obtain some warts that need removing is retard time. Bottomline: there's a reason that even Oman started getting a stiff one after the Patriots game. If he can stay healthy and the organization can keep some stability for a while he'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: It happens more frequently when you've had it inadvertently ingrained into your psyche not to trust what's happening with the guys you're relying on to make plays for you. Your competitive instincts have been misinformed and now they're acting on your behalf. The ones who expect Mariota to be the ultimate Gary Stu regardless of circumstances will dismiss that as excuse making, but no one is suggesting that it's something that he shouldn't overcome. He'll eventually have to overcome it or it'll solidify flaws in his game or even aid in his ultimate failure. Mariota's time in the NFL has been anything but typical. Most NFL starting quarterbacks will go through multiple offensive coordinators over the course of their careers, but Mariota has been through more regime changes at head coach and coordinator in soon-to-be 5 seasons than most starting QBs go through in an entire career. The expectation that he look like Superman throughout all of that and not obtain some warts that need removing is retard time. Bottomline: there's a reason that even Oman started getting a stiff one after the Patriots game. If he can stay healthy and the organization can keep some stability for a while he'll be fine. I agree with you that's it's an instinctive thing but I can't say that it really has anything to do with not trusting the other players (though I'm sure he doesn't really trust them). I bet if you look through his high school and college tapes, you'll find plenty of times where he does the same thing. It's just in his DNA as a football player. You love that he has that much dog in him but you hate that it could sideline him. NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Mythos27 said: Definitely. While RG3 had literally no sense on when or how to avoid getting hit, I actually think Mariota does. Mariota's problem is that every once in a while something comes over him and he decides he's gonna be the hero and either makes a block he shouldn't be attempting or tries to get that extra yard when he should already be sliding. Prime example is that hit on Henry's run vs the Giants. I loved it and it hypes the team up to see their QB going hard out there but if he'd dislocated his shoulder or something it would just look stupid. He knows better, he just makes some bad decisions sometimes. I agree it needs to stop. Hits weaken the body. A player may get hit in the first quarter and then injured in the fourth. Mariota hits with his throwing shoulder a lot. When a ball hits the ground Peyton would run like it was a granade. Wilson protects himself. QBs that don’t, don’t last long. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 Mariota is about to have his money and his opportunity. He’s lucky to get the 5th year option at 20 million. He better gain some weight if he wants to be the QB next year. WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 https://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/2017/07/marcus_mariota_titans_suggesti.html Quote Mariota's trainer, Ryan Flaherty, the senior director of performance at Nike, says he thinks Mariota playing at the lighter weight will make him faster, more mobile and elusive to avoid potential injury-causing hits. "I have always told Marcus that I thought he should play at 215 pounds because I felt like he was the fastest at that weight," Flaherty told reporter Paul Kuharsky. "The No. 1 injury QBs suffer in the NFL is AC sprain and that's from getting hit. I told him that they can't hit what they can't catch so he should think about playing at a weight where he is his fastest. "Finally Marcus agrees with me and will play at 215." Flaherty said the Titans prefer Mariota's weight to be between 225 and 230 pounds so he can protect himself from hits. "The Titans coaches always told him they wanted him heavier and to play around 225-230 pounds to be able to absorb hits," Flaherty said. " I think you'll notice a huge difference even though it's only a difference of 10 pounds. He will be much quicker and faster this year and the goal with that will be to take less hits which will in turn keep him healthy." OILERMAN, Mythos27, and Number9 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, BudAdams said: https://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/2017/07/marcus_mariota_titans_suggesti.html How did that work out Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, headhunter said: How did that work out The whole article is the dumbest shit ever and there's no way Mariota took their advice for the reason of "I told him that they can't hit what they can't catch so he should think about playing at a weight where he is his fastest." Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 I saw this on another message board in the context of a new contract for Russell Wilson and some are arguing to let him walk and draft a cheaper alternative. Thought I would share on how another fan base views Mariota. Quote "There are just too many young and talented QB's coming out of college that can do a more than adequate job." Myth ! Every year we see these "young and talented OB's" come out only to see them arrive at mediocrity (or worse) within 2-3 years. For every Mahomes there are a half dozen Mariotas, Bortles, RG IIIs and so on and so forth. Finding a top 5 super bowl quality QB is a crap shoot and if you get one you are blessed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, BudAdams said: I saw this on another message board in the context of a new contract for Russell Wilson and some are arguing to let him walk and draft a cheaper alternative. Thought I would share on how another fan base views Mariota. I thought we had pretty much rounded up all the idiots. J/K Edited March 19, 2019 by Number9 BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Number9 said: I thought we had pretty much rounded up all the idiots. J/K Huston 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinx81 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I dont think an extra 15 lbs would have saved Mariota from any of his longer term injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Dinx81 said: I dont think an extra 15 lbs would have saved Mariota from any of his longer term injuries. And yet people believed that it would make him untouchable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 What was Mariota’s PFF grade last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Titans279 said: What was Mariota’s PFF grade last year? 76.8 (18th) Titans279 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Title of this thread is all wrong. It should've read... Titans Trade for Tannehill, Release Gabbert Mariota. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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