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9 Nines   

You can tell by opposition participation that republicans are afraid of O'Rourke.   Look at this laughable critique by Newt Gingrich - this is all that can say to critcize him:

 

 

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Rolltide   

Anybody want to make the case for Bozo as president? Don't worry about him not being a senator Obama did not do anything for 2 years anyway. That is the best kind of senator. Why vote for Beto just vote for Castro instead? Or Sheila Jackson Lee. Their votes are almost identical.  

 

FYI Castro is about as moderate as his name sake was. A 0 rating from the American conservative union. All of them are pro abortion and pro infanticide. 

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16 minutes ago, oldschool said:

Seems too green to me. Obama was a senator for a a year or two when he announced. 

He's was a Representative for a couple of terms though, wasn't he?

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9 Nines   

"It" really matters.  Beto O'Rourke cannot tell you the real reason he is running for President.  He cannot tell you because if he told you, he would not have "it" and if you have "it", you do not have to tell people anyway. (People know you have "it" so they do not have to be told you have "it.") And by the way "it" is the most important thing to have. "It" is "it."

 

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/beto-orourke-campaign-president-reason.html

 

Beto O’Rourke Has a Good Reason He’s Running. He Just Can’t Say It.

By Jonathan [email protected]

 

“O’Rourke’s actual reason for running is perfectly clear: He is a highly charismatic and inspirational… He is saying he has natural gifts as a political communicator, and believes he should put them to use for the purpose of beating Donald Trump and otherwise making the world a better place.”


“This is a good reason to run for the presidency! Politics is a team sport, and enacting political change requires effort from a wide array of actors: policy advisers, legislators, bureaucrats, and activists. The president of the United States is only one of those actors, albeit the most important by far, and his or her most important role is serving as a messenger for the party. Being an effective, telegenic communicator is a crucial job qualification and a vital asset.”

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9 minutes ago, Btowner said:

Agree on him being too green. However, if the country would elect a reality TV star with no experience, you never know. The bar has been set.

Between that and the sheer number of name Democrats running for President, seemingly anything could happen...

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9 Nines   

O'Rourke, especially if he wins, makes pure irony.   He is the antithesis of Trump, yet the same.  He is everything Trump is not, yet would not be if not for Trump. 

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Having lots of "political experience," especially when running for President, can be a liability. Bigly. The "sausage making" process on capitol hill is complicated and messy. Folks that have been there for a while end up having taken official positions on all sorts of things. Plus the fact that, the longer you are in Washington, the more you start to sound like a political whore.

 

Last two Presidents have had the least experience of almost anyone. And it isn't like George W had a ton of experience either. Then before that, Bill Clinton, who was governor, but he was considered young and green too. Before him was HW, and he rode Reagan's coattails into office and then got thrown out. His wealth of experience didn't do much for him. And then of course before that was Reagan, who made a name for himself not as a politician, but as an actor. Hell I guess might as well go back one more - Jimmy Carter was a country boy from Georgia. Obviously a lot of these guys were governors, but "political experience" were not really their calling cards.

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9 Nines   

@everyone Send O'Rourke money today.  If he sets a record with first day donations, it would put pressure on donors of other candidates to not stop out of fear of wasting money. 

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9 Nines   

Crazy Trump is at it again - criticizes someone for something he knows he does:

 

 

President Trump said that he was struck by Beto O’Rourke’s gesticulations during the former Texas congressman’s first day on the campaign trail, NBC News reports.

Said Trump: “Well, I think he’s got a lot of hand movement. I’ve never seen so much hand movement. I said, ‘Is he crazy or is that just the way he acts?’ I watched him a little while this morning, during I assume it was some kind of a news conference, and I’ve actually never seen anything quite like it.”

 

Trump dodged a question about whether he thought O’Rourke or Joe Biden would make for a tougher opponent.

 

Trump's team planned to shape who the Democrat nominee is by overly going after the one they actually want to make Democrats primary votes rush to that person's aid by nominating that person. 

 

I have a feeling, Trump, who dyes his comb over hair and puts fake tan on his face daily, is very jealous of O'Rourke on so many levels and will not be able to resist attacking O'Rourke, who is the last person Trump probably wants to run against him, defeating that ploy by his team. 

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37 minutes ago, 9 Nines said:

Crazy Trump is at it again - criticizes someone for something he knows he does:

 

 

President Trump said that he was struck by Beto O’Rourke’s gesticulations during the former Texas congressman’s first day on the campaign trail, NBC News reports.

Said Trump: “Well, I think he’s got a lot of hand movement. I’ve never seen so much hand movement. I said, ‘Is he crazy or is that just the way he acts?’ I watched him a little while this morning, during I assume it was some kind of a news conference, and I’ve actually never seen anything quite like it.”

 

Trump dodged a question about whether he thought O’Rourke or Joe Biden would make for a tougher opponent.

 

Trump's team planned to shape who the Democrat nominee is by overly going after the one they actually want to make Democrats primary votes rush to that person's aid by nominating that person. 

 

I have a feeling, Trump, who dyes his comb over hair and puts fake tan on his face daily, is very jealous of O'Rourke on so many levels and will not be able to resist attacking O'Rourke, who is the last person Trump probably wants to run against him, defeating that ploy by his team. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxiudNNAX78

 

Craziest shit ever.  Love the comments.

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Funny the hands is what he mentions, because Beto has some real mitts if I'm not mistaken. Would swallow Trump's in a pre-debate handshake, which would almost make nominating him worth it if nothing else than for that.

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Cyrus   
2 hours ago, Legaltitan said:

Having lots of "political experience," especially when running for President, can be a liability. Bigly. The "sausage making" process on capitol hill is complicated and messy. Folks that have been there for a while end up having taken official positions on all sorts of things. Plus the fact that, the longer you are in Washington, the more you start to sound like a political whore.

  

Last two Presidents have had the least experience of almost anyone. And it isn't like George W had a ton of experience either. Then before that, Bill Clinton, who was governor, but he was considered young and green too. Before him was HW, and he rode Reagan's coattails into office and then got thrown out. His wealth of experience didn't do much for him. And then of course before that was Reagan, who made a name for himself not as a politician, but as an actor. Hell I guess might as well go back one more - Jimmy Carter was a country boy from Georgia. Obviously a lot of these guys were governors, but "political experience" were not really their calling cards.

You're talking a lot about electoral strategy, not governance. Certainly experience is just one factor and there are a lot of characteristics that matter in leadership and governance. If you like Beto, imagine him with 4 or 8 years of experience being a governor. Or 4 or 8 years as a Senator on a major committee. Think he would be a better leader with that experience? I suspect yes.

 

Personally, I think Clinton would have been a better President back in 2008, and Obama a better one in 2016. Disregard political strategy for the time being. The country, and especially the world, is a complex and complicated place. Our American values, the rights we think are self-evident are not actually as universally accepted and readily evident to everyone in the world. (something I think Obama recognized later on his presidency). 

 

Dynamism in a candidate can be interesting and at times positive. However I prefer someone who has seen the good and bad in the world. Who may be a bit more humble because they've seen history unfurl, and maybe made some mistakes too. I also prefer someone who can empathize, because they've suffered too, they've been through tragedy and come out the other side. They may have baggage, most people do, especially those who have been around for a while.

 

So while he may not fit into the perfect Democratic or Progressive mold, I look at the landscape and easily think Biden would be the best leader for the current time.

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