Titans279 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 9 hours ago, tgo said: Biden is the strongest candidate to take on Trump, period. Everyone knows it, including Trump and Kellyanne Conway. They're terrified of him and begging to run against Sanders. Nobody gives a fuck about a bankruptcy bill from 10 years ago that was actually a good bill anyway. Not going to find very many people other than leftists and bankrupt people who think it should be even easier to file for bankruptcy. lol sometimes you have such odious opinions tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: I listened to the podcast "Pod Save America" and it's got two former Obama guys from his administration. These guys are moderate Dems who would def prefer Biden. They were saying today that right now Bernie is closer to winning the nomination than he ever has been and they had to prepare for the fact that he might really be the nominee at this point. They said Biden has a serious cash problem and Bernie has way more money. They said it's the reason Hillary lost to Obama. She ran out of money after the first few states. It was pretty eye opening hearing these guys say this stuff @tgo and @oldschool why don't you and your friends who don't want to vote for Sanders donate to Biden?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Titans279 said: @tgo and @oldschool why don't you and your friends who don't want to vote for Sanders donate to Biden?! I’ve donated pretty heavily to Biden. If he makes it to my city for a fundraiser, I’ll be there. Unless of course I’ve maxed out the legal donation limit by then. But I guess then I could just donate to his Super PAC. Edited January 25, 2020 by tgo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, tgo said: I’ve donated pretty heavily to Biden. If he makes it to my city for a fundraiser, I’ll be there. Unless of course I’ve maxed out the legal donation limit by then. But I guess then I could just donate to his Super PAC. What about all your friends?? How is Biden not collecting cash when he has more support and apparently the supporters all so well off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Titans279 said: What about all your friends?? How is Biden not collecting cash when he has more support and apparently the supporters all so well off? Haha my Republican friends will vote for Biden in a general, but tough luck getting them to donate. I’m not “so well off” btw - but the people that are seem to be mostly behind Warren and Buttigieg, especially the online donors who tend to be younger or middle aged. Also have to remember that a ton of people who support Biden are minority folks from poor communities or older people who dont donate online. And working class Sanders people are making an investment in their future! They’re super passionate about donating! Small price to pay for all the free shit that awaits them! Edited January 25, 2020 by tgo thor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Starkiller said: I'd say the Pod Save guys are fairly liberal. They seem to like Biden, but I feel like they are more in the Warren camp. Or at least they would be if they were taking sides. I get the feeling they have came around to the idea the party has shifted left and are getting on board Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 @tgo Have you heard of the "Pitchfork economics" podcast? They do a great job explaining how all the talking points concerning republican economics is bull shit. "Higher wages kills jobs", "How is _____ gonna pay for it", " the rich are job creators and cutting their taxes creates jobs"........ One thing that's been hammered home since Reagan is these fucks not only do not care about the deficit, they run it up on purpose and then talk about cutting SS and other programs for the middle class. We just gave a 1.5 trill tax cut to the rich and no one was asking "how are we gonna pay for it?" Any time Warren or Bernie floats an idea about student loan debt or healthcare everyone starts hammering how are you gonna pay for it or you're gonna raise taxes. The dems do a poor job and the corporate media is also guilty of not explaining how a lot of these progressive ideas would actually make for a better economy for everyone. Putting money in the pockets of the middle class injects the real economy way more than tax cuts for stock buybacks for the super wealthy. Infrastructure and going green creates jobs. Donald Trump is in Davos bragging to the super rich how he's helped them while talking about cutting SS and the very uninformed dullards this would hurt are singing the praises of this conman buffoon. Bernie is a socialist..... Durrrrrrrrrr Trump and the Republicans are the real socialist, for the rich only IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: @tgo Have you heard of the "Pitchfork economics" podcast? They do a great job explaining how all the talking points concerning republican economics is bull shit. "Higher wages kills jobs", "How is _____ gonna pay for it", " the rich are job creators and cutting their taxes creates jobs"........ One thing that's been hammered home since Reagan is these fucks not only do not care about the deficit, they run it up on purpose and then talk about cutting SS and other programs for the middle class. We just gave a 1.5 trill tax cut to the rich and no one was asking "how are we gonna pay for it?" Any time Warren or Bernie floats an idea about student loan debt or healthcare everyone starts hammering how are you gonna pay for it or you're gonna raise taxes. The dems do a poor job and the corporate media is also guilty of not explaining how a lot of these progressive ideas would actually make for a better economy for everyone. Putting money in the pockets of the middle class injects the real economy way more than tax cuts for stock buybacks for the super wealthy. Infrastructure and going green creates jobs. Donald Trump is in Davos bragging to the super rich how he's helped them while talking about cutting SS and the very uninformed dullards this would hurt are singing the praises of this conman buffoon. Bernie is a socialist..... Durrrrrrrrrr Trump and the Republicans are the real socialist, for the rich only What stupid freaking remarks. Bernie is a communist - like you... Republican economics... LOL!!! That's the same reason you idiots still don't know what's going on with the economy... Just keep whining and telling everybody how bad it is... LOL!!! It's only bad for the economists in MSM and their disciples who still don't understand what Trump is doing... Just think if the idiots like yourself were working with Trump instead of trying to stop him what would be going on... USMCA, Asia, UK, --- etc. etc. --- smf... JakePA_Titan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornrow Wallace Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, thor said: What stupid freaking remarks. Bernie is a communist - like you... Republican economics... LOL!!! That's the same reason you idiots still don't know what's going on with the economy... Just keep whining and telling everybody how bad it is... LOL!!! It's only bad for the economists in MSM and their disciples who still don't understand what Trump is doing... Just think if the idiots like yourself were working with Trump instead of trying to stop him what would be going on... USMCA, Asia, UK, --- etc. etc. --- smf... tgo, I found somebody else foaming at the mouth oh wait nvm, that's drool Edited January 25, 2020 by Cornrow Wallace hungover,can't type OILERMAN, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Titans279 said: @tgo and @oldschool why don't you and your friends who don't want to vote for Sanders donate to Biden?! How do you know we havent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 There's a reason Trump is attacking Biden and is virtually hands off with Bernie. 'Nator, and thor 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, ctm said: There's a reason Trump is attacking Biden and is virtually hands off with Bernie. They dont see it because they are the left's version of the trump base. Even when @No1TitansFan explains how Sanders's stances in the past will hurt him in the general it gets dismissed as fake news. You know who does that? Those not rooted in reality. Sanders refers to himself proudly as a democratic socialist and the Trump campaign is salivating at the thought of running against Sanders. tgo, ctm, and 'Nator 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, oldschool said: They dont see it because they are the left's version of the trump base. Even when @No1TitansFan explains how Sanders's stances in the past will hurt him in the general it gets dismissed as fake news. You know who does that? Those not rooted in reality. Sanders refers to himself proudly as a democratic socialist and the Trump campaign is salivating at the thought of running against Sanders. I wonder if it's better for the long term health of the Dem party for Sanders to win the nom so that when Trump wins in a landslide, it will be proof to the Dems to pull the reigns on the far left wing of the party. If Biden wins the nom he will either win the general, or lose a close election and if he loses a close one, many Dems will insist that a further left candidate would have done better, and will continue with the leftward shift of the party, pushing candidates with no shot in the general. So is it better to just learn this lesson now? Well, no because a dangerous fucktard clown is in the White House, and he can do quite a bit more damage with a mandate and 4 more years. This is an important election and not time to push the free give-away Dem candidate. Hillary lost because men, women, children, centrists, leftists, conservatives, dogs, cats, hamsters, gods, titans and xenomorphs fucking HATE Hillary Clinton. She's literally the most unpopular politician of my lifetime by far, and Trump still barely won. Any generic Dem moderate would have won 2016 easily. The entire Trump populist revolution is a sham. People just hate Hillary and that's it. Edited January 25, 2020 by 'Nator IsntLifeFunny, and tgo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 At this time in 2016 Hillary Clinton was at -8.2 net favorability. Right now Joe Biden is at -5.3. That's not a huge difference. A year ago Biden was like +20 or 30. It's possible the GOP hits on Biden will bring Biden down even lower once he's more the focus of their attention. There are so many other stories to focus on now that the Biden stuff isn't always front and center. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Titans279 said: At this time in 2016 Hillary Clinton was at -8.2 net favorability. Right now Joe Biden is at -5.3. That's not a huge difference. A year ago Biden was like +20 or 30. It's possible the GOP hits on Biden will bring Biden down even lower once he's more the focus of their attention. There are so many other stories to focus on now that the Biden stuff isn't always front and center. Wait till the negative stuff on Bernie comes out if he's nominated. Republicans have already shot their best shot at Biden. tgo, and 'Nator 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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