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japan   
3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

I don't think the Wake contract was "huge" but Staffold and Humphries absolutely were. Salary cap doesn't matter anyway. 

 

Humphries for example is a WR who was the 3rd or 4th option on a high volume passing team getting signed to be a starter and paid big money. I have no idea how he'll turn out but this is the formula in free agency that causes poor ROI

I mean, its the same situation that JRob used when he signed Matthews off the Dolphins.  He was the 3rd WR and he panned out until he became a head-case.

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japan   
1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Anyone think a 10 mil guy is anything like a 15-16-17 mil guy? We simply don’t sign those people. Argue semantics. Bouye was the top tier guy, not Ryan. Robinson doesn’t operate like that. Butler was like Ryan, the second tier. Saffold isn’t. He’s the top tier. 

He was prepared to sign Suh to a large deal last offseason.

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BudAdams   
5 minutes ago, japan said:

What are you talking about?  A lot of people, including me said Walker looked old and done in 2017.  We were talking about replacing him in that last draft.

Yet they extended him .....

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abc2330   
15 minutes ago, japan said:

What are you talking about?  A lot of people, including me said Walker looked old and done in 2017.  We were talking about replacing him in that last draft.

Then that was a dumb statement.  

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BudAdams   
14 minutes ago, japan said:

They did..... even after his subpar 2017.

I know - I thought it was dumb at the time.  3rd contracts for most players in their 30's rarely pan out

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scine09   
12 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

I posted earlier that Robinson was facing pressure this season, a losing season and/or Mariota flaming out and he's not looking too good. 

 

This off season so far looks like a bit of a panic to me. 

 

 

That's ridiculous.  The first two signings were signings at positions of need who will immediately help this football team.  I understand people being skeptical about the Wake signing but it's clear that he was brought in for a purpose.  To mentor the young pass rushers (Landry, Finch, rookie(s)).

 

He's also done a good job keeping his own people to help the depth.  Right now they have one real glaring hole and I would expect that'll be filled in the draft.

 

But these moves have been smart and strategic.  I don't see a hint of desperation in any of these moves.

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japan   
25 minutes ago, abc2330 said:

Then that was a dumb statement.  

Was it?  He hasn't done a thing since getting the contract extension...

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Face   
2 hours ago, Justafan said:

You have been clamoring for some of these quality older free agent bargains.  

Well I've always felt that older vets have a huge upside for a year or two. I think age is overrated. Don't get me wrong, Id obviously prefer 27 to 37, but IMO you look to the draft more for your long term investments & FA to plug holes or a big ROI for a year or two.

 

In this case though I don't think some here realize just how great of a player Wake is. He is absolutely dominant when healthy & finished last season unblockable. And has been for a decade. He's also a pro's pro. He takes his trade seriously, he's in great shape, studies film, eats well.  I admit 37 is awfully old but even if we get just 1 more prime Wake year it's worth it.

 

Did you see the deals the Smith's got? They're not even in Wake's stratosphere.

 

This also allows the team another year or two to see what they have in Finch and/or take advantage of an incredible edge class. The Packers are obviously out of drafting an edge & they looked like a no doubter for one in the 1st. If a stud drops to 19 we can still go that route now.

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tgo   

The more I think about it, the more obvious it is that the 3 year contract was only executed with the function of spreading the dead money over a 3 year term. 

 

I don't think we're done yet either. Keep an eye on the lower tier guards, DL, LBs, and WRs over the next several days. 

 

There are guys like Albert McClellan and Brian Peters with ties to the staff who are great ST LBers and team leaders. 

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Justafan   
4 minutes ago, Face said:

Well I've always felt that older vets have a huge upside for a year or two. I think age is overrated. Don't get me wrong, Id obviously prefer 27 to 37, but IMO you look to the draft more for your long term investments & FA to plug holes or a big ROI for a year or two.

 

In this case though I don't think some here realize just how great of a player Wake is. He is absolutely dominant when healthy & finished last season unblockable. And has been for a decade. He's also a pro's pro. He takes his trade seriously, he's in great shape, studies film, eats well.  I admit 37 is awfully old but even if we get just 1 more prime Wake year it's worth it.

 

Did you see the deals the Smith's got? They're not even in Wake's stratosphere.

 

This also allows the team another year or two to see what they have in Finch and/or take advantage of an incredible edge class. The Packers are obviously out of drafting an edge & they looked like a no doubter for one in the 1st. If a stud drops to 19 we can still go that route now.

I'm up and down on Wake.  I think he's a better OLB than he was a DE (Which is a big statement!) and so it's definitely a bargain considering the other players available.  Having said that, he was slower than usual last year and it did show.  He had a drop in sacks as a result.  There's significant risk that he won't be a significant player and he's on a pretty good size contract. 

 

There's a lot to like though.  He could be a really good situational type guy and is good insurance.  I imagine they will for sure bring in a couple of rookie DL/OLB and Wake's presence is a huge plus.  I just hope he stays healthy and has another productive season (or two!)

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Face   
6 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

There are plenty of posts noting his age. He was still very productive last year against the pass and run and hopefully can continue to do so for at least a year. It’s basically going to be a one year deal with team options after that. 

Edge rushers for some reason are able to maintain close to their level of play well into their 30's. Look at Julius Peppers, dude retired at 39 & was still a very good player. Granted he's a freak of nature but look at Dwight Freeney & James Harrison, they were still very productive rushing the QB in their late 30's. 

 

I still wouldve preferred Justin Houston because of the 7 year age difference but maybe he priced himself out. 

 

BtW Wake is also a great run player. 

 

Trust me, the fans are going to see how great this guy is. 

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