Titans279 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Once fall rolls around the polls will start to be more interesting. For now they’re fun to follow but the predictive value of them is low. It’s interesting Harris is talked about as the moderate here. Buttigieg and O’Rourke scan as more moderate to me. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted April 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 I don't see Harris as being in the moderate lane, but I took the similarity to Biden to be her position in the establishment lane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgsTitan Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) Booker, Gillibrand, Beto, and Castro have to be very disappointed and even stunned at the lack of support they're getting so far. Although its very early, I get the feeling they're in deep shit. Gillibrand and Castro will probably be the first to get out and endorse Biden. Edit..forget to include Warren in that group. Here's my way too early wild guess of the order they get out: Delaney Inslee Castro Gabbard Yang Gillibrand Hickenlooper Swalwell Klobuchar Beto Ryan Warren Booker Harris Sanders Biden Buttigieg gets the nomination Edited April 19, 2019 by kgsTitan Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 I don’t think Biden is really the tier 1 establishment pick though. I guess we’ll see but I think people think he has a lot of problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, Legaltitan said: I don't see Harris as being in the moderate lane, but I took the similarity to Biden to be her position in the establishment lane. Could be true. I’ve just noticed they seem to attract the same supporters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Titans279 said: Once fall rolls around the polls will start to be more interesting. For now they’re fun to follow but the predictive value of them is low. It’s interesting Harris is talked about as the moderate here. Buttigieg and O’Rourke scan as more moderate to me. The more thin about it- the more interesting that is. Of Biden, Harris, Bernie, Warren, Buttigieg, O’Rourke — only two of the 6 are really “left wing” candidates. Does that mean anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legaltitan Posted April 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 Isn't Harris pretty left too? Free college Medicare for all reparations. And she did win statewide election is California. I certainly wouldn't call her a moderate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Legaltitan said: I don't see Harris as being in the moderate lane, but I took the similarity to Biden to be her position in the establishment lane. Harris is a cop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Between Warren and Bernie’s earlier comments and now this, it looks like the battle plan against Biden has been put into motion: Moving forward, Pete for America will not accept any money from lobbyists and we are returning all donations from registered lobbyists who have contributed to date -- that's $30,250 from 39 individuals. Mayor Pete will not be influenced by special-interest money, and we understand that making this promise is an important part of that commitment. We understand that making this decision and being vocal about our values is important; that the decision means more than just whether or not we are willing to accept money from a specific individual. Standing up for our collective values not only includes saying we believe that campaigns should not take money from lobbyists; it also means being aware of the loopholes that still allow special interests to impact the campaign. This campaign will: Not accept money directly from individuals who are registered as federal lobbyists Not allow registered lobbyists to serve as bundlers for our campaign, because that would still allow them to use their influence to benefit our campaign Add new language to our contribution forms about our standards around lobbying and donating Implement internal procedures and audits to ensure we are living by these commitments Not accept money from corporate PACs Not accept money from the fossil fuel industry IsntLifeFunny, and Legaltitan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Sadly I think being gay has a big chance to be a problem with Buttigieg's electability. I can tell the people generally posting here are more what I was call upper/upper-middle class tolerant liberals. But even in the Democratic party homosexual relationships are seen as acceptable to 83%. In an election that kind of thing could be enough to cost him a state, especially when looking at the states people are saying Democrats need to win back which are full of those who supposedly switched to GOP due to Democrats being too socially liberal. Quote In the latest poll, 83% of respondents who identified as Democrats said they support legal recognition of same-sex marriage, while 44% of Republican respondents and 71% of independents expressed support. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/05/23/same-sex-marriage-poll-americans/638587002/ Starkiller, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 Only 44% of Republicans support same sex marriage...That’s the least shocking stat I’ve seen in a while. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Sadly I think being gay has a big chance to be a problem with Buttigieg's electability. I can tell the people generally posting here are more what I was call upper/upper-middle class tolerant liberals. But even in the Democratic party homosexual relationships are seen as acceptable to 83%. In an election that kind of thing could be enough to cost him a state, especially when looking at the states people are saying Democrats need to win back which are full of those who supposedly switched to GOP due to Democrats being too socially liberal. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/05/23/same-sex-marriage-poll-americans/638587002/ it's a huge hurdle no doubt. I posted a few weeks ago that research shows african americans and latinos are behind the times in accepting LGBTQQ. On a side note how funny is it that the GOP can't get the latino vote locked up? Its a block that screams christian conservatism. All the GOP had to do was common sense immigration reform and they would have locked up the latino vote for a generation. Pragidealist, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 4 hours ago, oldschool said: it's a huge hurdle no doubt. I posted a few weeks ago that research shows african americans and latinos are behind the times in accepting LGBTQQ. On a side note how funny is it that the GOP can't get the latino vote locked up? Its a block that screams christian conservatism. All the GOP had to do was common sense immigration reform and they would have locked up the latino vote for a generation. Yes, the minority vote will be much harder to get with a gay man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 hours ago, oldschool said: it's a huge hurdle no doubt. I posted a few weeks ago that research shows african americans and latinos are behind the times in accepting LGBTQQ. On a side note how funny is it that the GOP can't get the latino vote locked up? Its a block that screams christian conservatism. All the GOP had to do was common sense immigration reform and they would have locked up the latino vote for a generation. What's interesting to me is that I've not considered my interest in Mayor Pete to be homosexual at all. I've only been interested in what he has to say. His sexual preference has been uninteresting. However, that doesn't mean it won't affect everyone. It's a hill to climb. But the dude has a way of speaking to the common person, in a non-sexual way. It's an uphill climb for him. He has a lot to overcome, but I like the guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted April 28, 2019 Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Rogue said: What's interesting to me is that I've not considered my interest in Mayor Pete to be homosexual at all. I've only been interested in what he has to say. His sexual preference has been uninteresting. However, that doesn't mean it won't affect everyone. It's a hill to climb. But the dude has a way of speaking to the common person, in a non-sexual way. It's an uphill climb for him. He has a lot to overcome, but I like the guy. Voters like us dont care. Dont make the same mistake I made last election. I'd vote Biden if the primary were tomorrow but Mayor Pete is gaining ground. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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