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2 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

His most impressive quality is his ability to simply be a genuine person, which is something sorely lacking in 2019. 

It's a nice contrast to Trump. I see through Trump, but I understand why for some people he has the reputation of someone who "tells it like it is" and is "authentic."

 

Buttigieg is a person who truly is authentic, and the contrast with Trump will be very stark. If nothing else, hopefully Mayor Pete is in the thick of things long enough to further show that the emperor has no clothes in that regard. Like, "hey America, this is what it actually looks like and sounds like when you are authentic and sincere and confident in yourself."

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“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” — George Orwell 

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lol this dude really is like the Chuck Norris of nice guys. This popped up on his Mayor's Facebook page:

 

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I never would have guessed how this morning would begin for me. Unstructured time is rare especially these days, but I got to the Mayor's office early today after my morning run, and took a few minutes to read the news and answer text messages before my first meeting.

After going out into the hall to use the restroom, I ran into a young couple coming out of the elevator, saying I was just the person they were there to see. In my mind I saw the rare few minutes of free time Ihad left vanishing, and without meaning to be discouraging, tried to hint that I did not have a lot of time for unplanned meetings. Reluctantly, I showed them in to the front part of our office and promised someone would try to take care of whatever their issue was.

That's when Mary and Gabe explained that she was on her way to the hospital for a 9:00 a.m. appointment for a c-section. And they were hoping they could be married before she delivered. (It must have been 8:15 or so.) She had the paperwork and everything in a folder along with her hospital papers, and they wanted to see if I could do the honors.

Obviously there's only one answer to that question. I corralled a few staff members as they were trickling into the office, to serve as witnesses, and filled out the paperwork. Their rings weren't ready, so one of my colleagues found a ribbon that would do the trick.

A few minutes later, Gabe and Mary, newly married, left my office with just enough time to get to the hospital. And a few moments ago, they sent Mark in my office this photo of Gabe with young Jade Katherine Jones, South Bend's newest resident. It's moments like this that I'll miss when my term as mayor comes to an end.

Congratulations to the newlyweds and new parents, and welcome, Jade, to this unlikely and lovely world!

And then these pictures

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Saw Buttigieg on Bill Maher's show Friday night, after doing more research on him recently. 

 

Really like Buttigieg and he's become one of my favorite candidates. His biggest weakness for me and probably in general is lack of national experience. 

 

I'd say out of all the potential candidates as things stand today, my favorites are: Biden (teetering on this one, waiting to see how he responds to the inappropriate contact with women stuff and if he can survive it and make something out productive out of it), McAuliffe, Buttigieg, Booker, Michael Bennett. 

 

I'm not sure what's going on with Steve Bullock or if he's going to jump into the race later or what, but he'd enter the top tier for me most likely if he ends up taking the plunge. 

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I like this guy- I do.  But doesn't his age and his biggest job as a mayor in IN make anyone else uncomfortable?   As I alluded to in another thread-  one of the most important traits needed to win is his communication skills and he may have that.  It may be the most important trait.   

 

But this guy would be the youngest president ever....  does that not given anyone else pause?

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1 minute ago, Pragidealist said:

I like this guy- I do.  But doesn't his age and his biggest job as a mayor in IN make anyone else uncomfortable?   As I alluded to in another thread-  one of the most important traits needed to win is his communication skills and he may have that.  It may be the most important trait.   

 

But this guy would be the youngest president ever....  does that not given anyone else pause?

He is legally old enough to run for president, so his age doesn’t bother me. It’s not like he is fresh out of high school.

 

His experience, however, does concern me. Sure, anyone would have more experience than Trump, but I don’t tend to think the president's political experience should be limited to being mayor of South Bend.

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14 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

I like this guy- I do.  But doesn't his age and his biggest job as a mayor in IN make anyone else uncomfortable?   As I alluded to in another thread-  one of the most important traits needed to win is his communication skills and he may have that.  It may be the most important trait.   

 

But this guy would be the youngest president ever....  does that not given anyone else pause?

Yes and no. 

 

No because he demonstrates an intellectual/academic understanding of a lot of these issues and can demonstrate that he actually has an accurate grasp on the landscape of the issues. Plus he's been able to argue some of these issues from different perspectives which shows that there's an intellectual honesty there too. So in that sense, I think he's a genuine intellectual, and a good communicator. He's been pretty opaque on some issues, but to some degree he doesn't seem dogmatic or overly ideological - a plus for a moderate, centrist like me.

 

Yes because intellectuals can often be wrong, even with good reasoning - often because don't always see the whole picture, or have all the facts like we think we do. That's particularly true in international affairs where the calculus is different and often less predictable. So experience in this respect is more about having humility, understanding uncertainty and recognizing that the variety of actors are often motivated by different things. In some instances, only time can be a good teacher even with a good theoretical base.

 

He'd be a better candidate and President in 8-12 years, personally. But even so, he might be better than other candidates now. (like Sanders who is very ideological and with his age, has not yielded all that much wisdom).

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59 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

I like this guy- I do.  But doesn't his age and his biggest job as a mayor in IN make anyone else uncomfortable?   

Not one bit.

 

The guy has graduated from Harvard, served in a war, been a high-level management consultant, and is a two-time mayor.

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10 minutes ago, Legaltitan said:

Even his negatives are pretty good. lol this guy can't be for real

Contextually, it's right/fair to say that all lives matter. However I think this could hurt Buttigieg more in the primaries than Biden's recent "issue". This is the problem with the Democratic primaries right now, seeing as the coalition and activist contingent that requires very careful parsing and behavior so as not to offend/harm. 

 

I thought Buttigieg did great on the Breakfast Club, but explaining why "all lives matter" from a mayor's perspective in this current environment presents an uphill battle and can easily present problems among minorities who tend to be more skeptical of "new politicians" in the primaries anyways.

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46 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

Oddly enough this event and his handling of it as the executive in charge, and learning from it (enough to note it in his memoir) actually addresses the earlier question of Buttigieg’s youth.  For a 37 year old guy, he’s been tested and has enough of a track record for voters to assess. 

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4 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Trust me, they are a minority in the military. There are plenty of people split on Trump but in combat arms especially, it skews heavily towards conservatism. 

 

I stole this from the other thread to ask how do you think military folks would weigh in on Mayor Pete?

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1 minute ago, begooode said:

 

I stole this from the other thread to ask how do you think military folks would weigh in on Mayor Pete?

Honestly, I don't know.  Five years ago I would have said a majority would reject him outright but things have changed dramatically.  I think it will be similar to what I said above, splits across the force but in combat arms, it will skew heavily to the right.  

 

It doesn't matter who the candidate is.  They don't even care.  Most don't follow policies or any of that.  All they know is right is freedom and patriotism and good.  Liberals are a bunch of socialist commie bastards and everything wrong with the world.  That pretty much sums up the understanding.

 

Of course, that's a stereotype and there are plenty of intelligent well-thought out people and many people, such as myself, in combat arms who would be fine with a gay man as president.  I'm definitely in the minority though.  

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