scine09 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jonboy said: They should sign Foles and draft one, tbh. To me that's a complete waste. Either give your franchise to Foles or another QB. Foles is young enough where he can be the long-term QB. I'd be lukewarm to handing my franchise over to Foles unless I was the Eagles. I've said that I thought he was terrific in Philly but question how good he'll be away from Pederson. In fact I still think that Philly should make him their guy long-term. Edited March 5, 2019 by scine09 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, wiscotitansfan said: Huh? Foles is the perfect situation to mentor a young QB. It isn't a this or that scenario by any means They're not going to give Foles all that money and trade up for a QB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bink Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, scine09 said: I have absolutely no interest in the Jaguars getting their hands on Kyler Murray. I am rooting like heck for the Jaguars to get Foles. This is where I am. I don't want the Jaguars to hit on a rookie QB. I realize their track record isn't stellar there, but I'd rather them have to spend the money on Foles and make tough choices elsewhere. I definitely didn't want them to get Murray, and am glad he is going to the Cards. If Murray hit, having to contend with him, Watson, and Luck every season would be disgusting. I'm less sold on Haskins, but still don't like what they rookie contract would let them do. With Foles, we know what they have. We've seen hit get really hot--but we've also seen him flame out as a starter. As others have said, his ability to be successful outside of Philly isn't a guarantee. scine09 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Foles’ track record suggest that he’s the type of QB who will be a reflection of his overall situation. Put him in a good system with a strong supporting cast and he’ll play at a high level and be productive. Stick him on a mediocre team with a less-than-stellar supporting cast, and he’s probably not so great. DeFillipo is a sharp guy who had great success as a QB coach working with Doug Pederson and Frank Reich, but clearly struggled when elevated to OC last year. And I’d say the Vikings offensive roster was clearly more talented that the roster he’s inheriting in Jax. Foles would almost certainly be an upgrade over Bortles...but I’m not convinced he makes the Jags offense a force to be reckoned with any more than Cousins did with Minnesota last year. Supernope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Well hes better than Mariota. The AFC south is gonna be tough. I dont see 2 guaranteed wins vs the Jags right now. If they upgrade their skill players on offense and improve their blocking they can beat us just like the Colts and Texans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 10:01 AM, Jonboy said: Hopefully someone swoops in at the 11th hour and Foles leaves the Jags at the altar. I have to ask, why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, nine said: Foles’ track record suggest that he’s the type of QB who will be a reflection of his overall situation. Put him in a good system with a strong supporting cast and he’ll play at a high level and be productive. Stick him on a mediocre team with a less-than-stellar supporting cast, and he’s probably not so great. DeFillipo is a sharp guy who had great success as a QB coach working with Doug Pederson and Frank Reich, but clearly struggled when elevated to OC last year. And I’d say the Vikings offensive roster was clearly more talented that the roster he’s inheriting in Jax. Foles would almost certainly be an upgrade over Bortles...but I’m not convinced he makes the Jags offense a force to be reckoned with any more than Cousins did with Minnesota last year. Flip was damn good as the OC of the browns a few years ago with nothing at QB. I dont hold Minnesota against him. The OL was terrible and Zimmer was up his ass all year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, oldschool said: I have to ask, why? Because he makes them better. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, oldschool said: Flip was damn good as the OC of the browns a few years ago with nothing at QB. I dont hold Minnesota against him. The OL was terrible and Zimmer was up his ass all year. Exactly. Flip wasn’t given complete control in Minnesota. Zimmer was forcing him to run the ball while the offensive line was playing like shit and they get blown up by a few good defenses. Flip is a top young offensive mind and it’s exactly why he got a job ASAP after being fired in season. If he doesn’t get fired by Minnesota he is probably a HC this year. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 10:11 PM, Titans279 said: Bortles is actually an upgrade on Gabbert as backup, right? Probably unlikely to sign him, but still This is a worthless scenario. It's like: lets take out trash to bring some mediatic trash to that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanicoNFLriotFAN Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, Jonboy said: Because he makes them better. And TN's F.O. is still being highlighted as poor F.A. adquirements. Plus the team's march hasn't been appealing to big names or players who could really be an upgrade. So what gives? I am in all to see that happening, but the reallity on how this F.O. works has slapped me to many damn times in that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 46 minutes ago, Jonboy said: Because he makes them better. Does he? Foles is leaving a perfect situation in Philly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, TitanicoNFLriotFAN said: And TN's F.O. is still being highlighted as poor F.A. adquirements. Plus the team's march hasn't been appealing to big names or players who could really be an upgrade. So what gives? I am in all to see that happening, but the reallity on how this F.O. works has slapped me to many damn times in that matter. What does that whining have anything to do with Jacksonville getting better with Foles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Jonboy said: Because he makes them better. Did you expect them to sit pat? By default they were going to get better at the position no matter what they did. oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, scine09 said: They're not going to give Foles all that money and trade up for a QB. You're obviously expecting them to give him a long term contract while others who don't want them drafting a QB high (never said anything about trading up, which is what would likely need to happen) are expecting a short term deal 1 or 2 year dollars mean nothing when it comes to drafting a young QB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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