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3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Then the Steelers would have gotten a 2nd

Not necessarily with the reports from Buffalo. I can’t blame teams for backing out of restructuring the contract. I simply don’t understand our position. Mariota seems destined to fail so why pay him 20 million? We have two playmakers on offense and a 35 year old coming off a broken leg. Both of those playmakers are inconsistent. It doesn’t make sense to me, but c’est la vie. It seems Robinson is throwing Marcus into the deep end, and honestly that’s fine by me. I would have rather us gone after Brown if we were sticking with MM though. There’s no way we couldn’t beat that offer. 

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7 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

 Mariota seems destined to fail so why pay him 20 million?

When you factor in guys under rookie deals(Mahomes/Wentz/Goff) 20 mill is right in line with where he ranks.

 

The reason he's getting 20 mill is because there is no other choice. Don't pay him and sign who exactly? Tyrod Taylor got 16 mill last year to start for the Browns

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1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

When you factor in guys under rookie deals(Mahomes/Wentz/Goff) 20 mill is right in line with where he ranks.

 

The reason he's getting 20 mill is because there is no other choice. Don't pay him and sign who exactly? Tyrod Taylor got 16 mill last year to start for the Browns

The offense as constructed doesn’t lead to Marcus being our QB after next year in most scenarios. Maybe we can get back to that playaction magic in 16 to go with some of the spread concepts we saw against the Eagles and Patriots last year. That’s my hope at least. 

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2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Ouch. Seems that may be the other side of non-guaranteed contracts. In any of the other major sports if you trade a player he isn’t counted against you whatsoever. That’s pretty interesting and was an underreported part of this whole saga. So the Steelers won’t pay him a dollar and will have to swallow 21 million (11% of their cap) just for trading him. 

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31 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

The offense as constructed doesn’t lead to Marcus being our QB after next year in most scenarios. Maybe we can get back to that playaction magic in 16 to go with some of the spread concepts we saw against the Eagles and Patriots last year. That’s my hope at least. 

That's a copout.

 

Mariota will lead to Mariota to being our QB or he won't. He plays well and consistent, you'll see the offense become his. He doesn't, and itll continue to be ultra-conservative to protect him.

 

Even if the former happened I never saw AB being patient to wait for us to figure it out. Our offense and our QB's game would never be enough for him.

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13 minutes ago, big2033 said:

That's a copout.

 

Mariota will lead to Mariota to being our QB or he won't. He plays well and consistent, you'll see the offense become his. He doesn't, and itll continue to be ultra-conservative to protect him.

 

Even if the former happened I never saw AB being patient to wait for us to figure it out. Our offense and our QB's game would never be enough for him.

Good call. If Mariota plays well then the offense will play well. 

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19 minutes ago, big2033 said:

That's a copout.

 

Mariota will lead to Mariota to being our QB or he won't. He plays well and consistent, you'll see the offense become his. He doesn't, and itll continue to be ultra-conservative to protect him.

 

Even if the former happened I never saw AB being patient to wait for us to figure it out. Our offense and our QB's game would never be enough for him.

Just to add onto this the offense wasn’t conservative until the last four or five games. Anyone who says different didn’t watch the games or has no idea what they’re talking about. We were conservative inside of a game plan against the Bills. It lost us the game. Overall we were fairly aggressive with the spread and no huddle. You’re trying to compare it to Mularkey (don’t lie) and it isn’t comparable. 

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2 hours ago, luvyablue256 said:

Its not JRob being unwilling. This chump ass family never wants to pay big guaranteed money for a star. 

 

Who was the last player to have a top 5 salary on this team?

 

This is why I ignored this entire thread. Its pointless.

They made Lewan the highest paid LT in the league last offseason. 

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17 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Just to add onto this the offense wasn’t conservative until the last four or five games. Anyone who says different didn’t watch the games or has no idea what they’re talking about. We were conservative inside of a game plan against the Bills. It lost us the game. Overall we were fairly aggressive with the spread and no huddle. You’re trying to compare it to Mularkey (don’t lie) and it isn’t comparable. 

I'm not comparing it to Mularkey. Mularkey kept his gameplan on neutral, our current offense is more willing to go outside that.

 

However, it still leans conservative because our QB led us there.

 

When he shows promise he gets more opportunities. The problem last year was he either got injured or would have flashes of success followed by head-scratching moments. Some coaches might remain conservative unless you really force their hand.

 

You just don't know what you're going to get. So you lean conservative as it's the more consistent direction.

 

The Eagles game we were trailing, Mariota had 43 passes. The Patriots game I don't consider some wide open gameplan. Mariota threw it 24 times and completed it 16. Our defense dominated that game and Mariota was efficient and was aggressive in getting the ball to Davis. I consider 24 passes conservative. 

 

It's no coincidence that if you look up historically most of Mariota's big passing games are when we're trailing. Some of this is all him, he seems to be more aggressive when he has no choice. Hence the reason Vrabel has said he wants 4th quarter Mariota in the 1st three.

 

I hope he realizes whether he has 50 passes or 20 he has to let it rip. 

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1 minute ago, heyitsmeallen said:

what I get from this is that his talk of not caring about the $ and only wanting a real team and owner that care about him, were all BS. 

 

I'm happy we stayed away. The odds of it becoming a disaster are too high.

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7 minutes ago, heyitsmeallen said:

what I get from this is that his talk of not caring about the $ and only wanting a real team and owner that care about him, were all BS. 

 

Pretty presumptuous no? He wanted to be in San Fran. He has a house in LA. It seems like he pulled it off and the contract was a major part but not the only one. He gets to live closer to his home and make more money. You’re equating the end result with the impetus of why he wanted to leave. I’m not saying you aren’t right either, but it does seem like whatever happened in Pitt ends up with them losing a top 3 RB and top 3 WR in the same year. 

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