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If Socialism Is The Answer....Why???????

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8 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Not really. You apparently don’t understand how SS works. I’m paying for your SS, just as you paid for my predecessors. It isn’t a bank account. It’s a socialist concept to protect the elderly. 

I understand how it works. Congress takes the money that I earned and uses it to fund their pet projects. They leave empty IOUs in the SS box.

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1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

I saw a report showing just how many of the super rich get their money from inheritance. Obviously the vast majority of millionaires are self made, something like 85%. Being an actual millionaire isn't a huge deal. There are quite a few posters who are in that status. 

 

This report was more about the really wealthy. Depending and what range you looked at it was anywhere from 45-63%. These are deca millionaires and up into the 100s of millions. They've never worked and did nothing to create this wealth. 

 

It also talked about how guys like Romney and Trump have bragged about being self made. Romney says his dad only gave him a mill worth of stocks and Trump claims his father only gave him a 1 mill loan. Obviously Trump is full of shit but assuming these two are telling the truth the idea that only getting 1 mill makes them self made is laughable. Our own CTF obviously was born into wealth and bragged about selling a business, even if that was true he would have never been in that position if not for the simple fact of what he was born into. 

 

It's just hilarious seeing these labels of "socialist" etc.... when the rules and laws are completely slanted towards a bunch of super rich people, half of which, never did a damn thing to get this money. 

 

 

The easiest way to make money is to already have a lot of money

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13 hours ago, LongTimeFan said:

Holy shit, you don't even know what capitalism is. What are you, 17? Pick up a book.

 

Definition of capitalism

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

How can you call anyone 17 when you bust out the fucking Webster's dictionary clapback? You should pick up a book bro, because the only thing you have contributed is to demonstrate your ability to use the bold feature to highlight generalizations. 

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19 hours ago, titanruss said:

when you tell me what i said is false... and then you point to a publication written at the time capitalism is formed - written by a fervent capitalist...

without actually saying what is incorrect in my statement... 

 

well you arent helping. just quoting a book title to sound intelligent. 

 

 

ooh!!! Maybe i should quote Marx and then you'll believe everything about socialism too!!! 

Everything in your statement is incorrect. "Absolute Capitalism" is Adam Smith's vision in his books and is what Capitalist ideals are derived. Profit Motive (Called Pursuit of Self-Interest by Capitalists) is only 1 part of an integral multi-part system. Hoarding money is not the goal of Capitalists. That is Mercantilism. The goal of Capitalists is to create the most amount of wealth possible. A person pursuing their own interests will make the most efficient use of the resources available because that is what will result in the most wealth creation for them. Hoarding money is not profitable. Capitalists instead, invest their money in capital to create profitable businesses that will then create more wealth. 

 

The idea that Capitalism ignores morals, and social responsibility in order to hoard money is  also false. Adam Smith took morals, ethics, and social responsibility into account. His book prior to Wealth of Nations, was Theory of Moral Sentiments and is referenced in Wealth of Nations to address these issues. "Absolute Capitalism" does in fact believe in a Limited Government role that oversees Fair Market Practices and Public Works. 

 

One such specific example is Universal Education which Adam Smith says "For a very small expence the publick can facilitate, can encourage, and can even impose upon almost the whole body of the people, the necessity of acquiring those most essential parts of education." Pursuing moral obligations is valued by Capitalists because it is beneficial to the individual's self interests. 

 

As far as quoting Marx goes. Considering Karl Marx work is a critique of the concepts derived from Adam Smith. And you cant grasp the concepts conveyed by Smith. Why should anyone bother to think you can somehow grasp the Concepts of Marx?

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10 hours ago, Bink said:

How can you call anyone 17 when you bust out the fucking Webster's dictionary clapback? You should pick up a book bro, because the only thing you have contributed is to demonstrate your ability to use the bold feature to highlight generalizations. 

Actually, everything I have highlighted is facts. Bible quotes and definitions. Verifiable information. You and the other liberal douchebags just throw around your echo chamber diarrhea.

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48 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Actually, everything I have highlighted is facts. Bible quotes and definitions. Verifiable information. You and the other liberal douchebags just throw around your echo chamber diarrhea.

Lol you are so fucking dumb. 

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5 hours ago, LongTimeFan said:

Facts always throw you idiots off. 

 

And yet providing the literal definition of a word to try to advance a discussion regarding capitalism is only a fact if you consider a 2nd grade book report data. If you don't have the common sense to see this, that's on you. 

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11 minutes ago, begooode said:

It's skewed toward the powerfully wealthy, most of whom have no problem letting this left/right distraction continue whilst they build their influence for generations.  

That sounds exactly what the character that is 'Nator's profile would say. In fact that is what he said.

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