big2033 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, abenjami said: Did you cut and paste this from one of the old VY threads? How does this have anything to do with VY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, big2033 said: How does this have anything to do with VY? Nothing aside from drawing a parallel between two flash in the pan QB’s who have (had) no place on a real NFL roster and the things the VY nutswingers said about him at a similar point in his “career”. Edited February 18, 2019 by abenjami Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, abenjami said: Nothing aside from drawing a parallel between two flash in the pan QB’s who have (had) no place on a real NFL roster and the things the VY nutswingers said about him at a similar point in his “career”. Colin K is better than VY. And deserves to be a backup in the NFL. We have Blaine Gabbert. Don't try to tell me Colin K doesn't deserve on a roster. He helped a team to the Super Bowl and was huge in those playoffs. Sorry, Colin's good enough. Take a knee and swallow it. Huston 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 hours ago, big2033 said: Colin K is better than VY. And deserves to be a backup in the NFL. We have Blaine Gabbert. Don't try to tell me Colin K doesn't deserve on a roster. He helped a team to the Super Bowl and was huge in those playoffs. Sorry, Colin's good enough. Take a knee and swallow it. He is good enough to be a backup QB. He just isn’t good enough to offset the PR hit a team would take by signing him. titanruss, and nine 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Starkiller said: He is good enough to be a backup QB. He just isn’t good enough to offset the PR hit a team would take by signing him. I believed that at first, but I think it was ultimately overstated. They made it big by NOT signing him. If a team signed him in preseason the outrage would last for a week. It became stupid when teams would rather sign Peterman or Matt Hasselbeck. There were thousands upon thousands of fans just asking their team to bite the bullet. NFL teams held the grudge for too long and got burned for it. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, big2033 said: I believed that at first, but I think it was ultimately overstated. They made it big by NOT signing him. If a team signed him in preseason the outrage would last for a week. It became stupid when teams would rather sign Peterman or Matt Hasselbeck. There were thousands upon thousands of fans just asking their team to bite the bullet. NFL teams held the grudge for too long and got burned for it. If he was a Roethlisberger or Russel Wilson or Mahomes caliber QB someone would have signed him immediately. But he isn’t remotely that good. He is a backup caliber and isn’t worth risking turning off half your fan base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Starkiller said: If he was a Roethlisberger or Russel Wilson or Mahomes caliber QB someone would have signed him immediately. But he isn’t remotely that good. He is a backup caliber and isn’t worth risking turning off half your fan base. Again agreed. But when you're down to Nate Peterman ... his talent is elevated. Desperation should've made him an option. It's supply and demand. Your arguments made sense in the preaseason. As the season wore on and the supply of talent was embarrassing, it became obvious teams would rather tank than be competitive. Which, is a requirement to be part of the NFL. Teams would rather risk their fanbase on being REALLY, REALLY bad than on a political issue. Which, unfortunately has consequences. You can't keep someone from working based on their political stance unless you can 100% prove it'd cause problem. Meanwhile Eric Reid signed with the Panthers and nobody gave a shit which made the NFL look even worse. Who are they really doing it for? Edited February 18, 2019 by big2033 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Well Reid is a starting caliber safety and he wasn’t the face of the movement. Most fans don’t know shit about him. Also, the safety market was terrible. Vaccaro also went unsigned into the season and that had nothing to do with PR issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big2033 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Starkiller said: Well Reid is a starting caliber safety and he wasn’t the face of the movement. Most fans don’t know shit about him. Also, the safety market was terrible. Vaccaro also went unsigned into the season and that had nothing to do with PR issues. So was/is the QB market. The NFL lost it's argument that this was just a, PR issue as the season wore on. Reid and all the domestic violence issues began to paint a picture that it was more about imposing their own (or, ahem a certain President's) personal beliefs than actually doing something for whatever percentage of its fanbase. That's why they had to settle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 When Josh Johnson got signed and started for the Skins it had to really help KP's case, dude had been out of the league and didn't have the success KP had had Downtown, and big2033 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 10:13 AM, 'Nator said: Record is not a quarterback stat but if you do want to use that, he is 4-2 in the playoffs and was 3 points away from a super bowl title. BTW, in that game he threw for 300+ yards, rushed for 62 with 2 TDs. Yes there are caveats to his 16 to 4 TD to IN T ratio. Namely, he holds the ball or takes off instead of throwing it, limiting pics. It's part of his deficiency as a passer. But there aren't 36 guys in the league with talent who can start and he was most definitely one of them (I don't know what kind of shape he is in currently). Fringe starter you'd look to replace/top backup. He didn't have a job because of the dipshit anthem shit. Anyone who thinks otherwise is retarded. Who wants a backup/fringe starter who courts controversy? Nobody with an IQ over 80. DrFlamehead 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliTitan3518 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 18 hours ago, OILERMAN said: When Josh Johnson got signed and started for the Skins it had to really help KP's case, dude had been out of the league and didn't have the success KP had had He hasn’t played in a game for awhile but he is always a QB that works out for teams. He was also with Gruden in Cincinnati for a year. The deciding factor fo this case was going to be what they found in the owners messages. They must have found something because the NFL did not want those to get out. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 10 hours ago, CaliTitan3518 said: The deciding factor fo this case was going to be what they found in the owners messages. They must have found something because the NFL did not want those to get out. I told someone this as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 Andrew Brandt had an interesting take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 I bet he plays as soon as this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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